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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: Pieter
Date: May 6, 2008 06:24

"Reality Scan" gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:0386092d-88ac-4c40-972b-10db3e822d34@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an temporary expedient to give
> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely
> beyond our awareness, which in turn create a thought system of sin
> which we generally use without awareness, and which creates a
> condition of perception while largely unaware perception is not the
> natural state of Mind.

- The Course explicitly states
that only what is reased to our
awareness can be dispelled
(which is healing of the mind):
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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: Reality Scan
Date: May 6, 2008 07:31

On May 6, 8:24 am, "Pieter" wrote:
> "Reality Scan" gmail.com> schreef in berichtnews:0386092d-88ac-4c40-972b-10db3e822d34@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an temporary expedient to give
>> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
>> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
>> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
>> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely
>> beyond our awareness, which in turn create a thought system of sin
>> which we generally use without awareness, and which creates a
>> condition of perception while largely unaware perception is not the
>> natural state of Mind.
>
> - The Course explicitly states
> that only what is reased to our
> awareness can be dispelled
> (which is healing of the mind):
>
> "You may wonder why it is so crucial that you look upon
> your hatred, and realize its full extent. And you may think ...
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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: m.a.z
Date: May 6, 2008 08:18

The course also indicated that
teachers will maintain imperfections so they can maintain a body and
earthly existence.

Where, please?
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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: Reality Scan
Date: May 6, 2008 08:44

On May 6, 10:18 am, "m.a.z" rocketmail.com> wrote:
> The course also indicated that
> teachers will maintain imperfections so they can maintain a body and
> earthly existence.
>
> Where, please?

Hell, I maintain all kinds of imperfections to maintain earthly
existence. Don't you?
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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: Pieter
Date: May 6, 2008 09:31

"m.a.z" rocketmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> The course also indicated that
> teachers will maintain imperfections so they can maintain a body and
> earthly existence.
>
> Where, please?

Maybe this has to do with it,
which is about still having imperfections,
though imo not deliberately maintaining them:

"Those who have laid the body down merely
to extend their helpfulness to those remaining
behind are few indeed. And they need helpers
who are still in bondage and still asleep, so that
by their awakening...
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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: george
Date: May 6, 2008 09:52

On May 6, 1:53 am, Reality Scan gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 3:19 am, "Pieter" wrote:
>
>>> So you don't know. In the process such dumb, highly abstract
>>> reasoning, out of full context is making a practical course, highly
>>> impractical, and little more than wishful thinking that if I close my
>>> eyes to error, error will go away.
>
>> Are you sure your thinking here is
>> in line with the above quote? It said:
>
>> "To forgive is to
>> OVERLOOK. Look, then, BEYOND error, and do not let your
>> perception rest UPON it, for you will believe what your
>> perception HOLDS. Accept as true only what your brother IS,
>> if you would know yourself."
>
> Yeah, well Pieter its easy to cherry pick quotes to push a certain
> view of the course.
> ...
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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: m.a.z
Date: May 6, 2008 10:31

>> The course also indicated that
>> teachers will maintain imperfections so they can maintain a body and
>> earthly existence.
>>
>> Where, please?
>
> Hell, I maintain all kinds of imperfections to maintain earthly
> existence. Don't you?
>

Well, yeah, LOTS of them!
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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: Reality Scan
Date: May 6, 2008 10:42

On May 6, 11:52 am, george hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 1:53 am, Reality Scan gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On May 6, 3:19 am, "Pieter" wrote:
>
>>>> So you don't know. In the process such dumb, highly abstract
>>>> reasoning, out of full context is making a practical course, highly
>>>> impractical, and little more than wishful thinking that if I close my
>>>> eyes to error, error will go away.
>
>>> Are you sure your thinking here is
>>> in line with the above quote? It said:
>
>>> "To forgive is to
>>> OVERLOOK. Look, then, BEYOND error, and do not let your
>>> perception rest UPON it, for you will believe what your
>>> perception HOLDS. Accept as true only what your brother IS,
>>> if you would know yourself." ...
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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: george
Date: May 6, 2008 10:58

On May 6, 10:42 am, Reality Scan gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 11:52 am, george hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On May 6, 1:53 am, Reality Scan gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> On May 6, 3:19 am, "Pieter" wrote:
>
>>>>> So you don't know. In the process such dumb, highly abstract
>>>>> reasoning, out of full context is making a practical course, highly
>>>>> impractical, and little more than wishful thinking that if I close my
>>>>> eyes to error, error will go away.
>
>>>> Are you sure your thinking here is
>>>> in line with the above quote? It said:
>
>>>> "To forgive is to ...
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Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: Pieter
Date: May 6, 2008 11:34

"Reality Scan" gmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> On May 6, 8:24 am, "Pieter" wrote:
>> "Reality Scan" gmail.com> schreef in
>> berichtnews:0386092d-88ac-4c40-972b-10db3e822d34@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an temporary expedient to give
>>> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
>>> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
>>> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
>>> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely
>>> beyond our awareness, which in turn create a thought system of sin
>>> which we generally use without awareness, and which creates a
>>> condition of perception while largely unaware perception is not the
>>> natural state of Mind.
>>
>> - The Course explicitly states
>> that only what is raised to our
>> awareness can be dispelled
>> (which is healing of the mind): ...
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