Hi Katie,

You have publically admitted to having spent over a decade
as a fervent member of a pricey mail-order "cult organization,"
just before beginning your very serious and dedicated work of
exposing this newsgroup as an insidious cult. lol

You documented that lost decade, in your own words, on your
website: [*'s mine]

" .... As you know, I was a follower of your Lazaris show for the
better part of twelve years. I was there throughout the 1990's,
"the most monumental decade" when we "worked" under the
tutelage, guidance, and advice of Lazaris to become "map maker"
"magicians" who would have the skills and tools to create a
safe world and a "virgin future".

I was in attendence at the 1999 culminating weekend and again
at the Millennium intensive, and a member of the "Jach and
Lazaris Forum" where we were assured that we had made it
through, **we had mitigated a world crisis, we had saved the
world from World War III with our Kosovo grid work, in which
I participated.**

.... that **we are a part of an elite group on the Earth,**
a group with more access via "Lazaris" to vital information and
techniques .... " ~ Katie Dean

'Twelve years of esoteric poppycock and very expensive wizard's
hats.. before being kicked out of the organization. Yikes.

We feel your pain, Katie. Hoaxes are hell. But ACIM has nothing
whatsoever to do with your VERY costly and humiliating choice
to leap PELL MELL into a level of folly that reading a book simply
cannot approximate.

There are no wild-eyed fanatics here.. but you.

Mostly just a group of folks impressed by what a book has to
say about love and fear, waking and sleeping, forgiveness and
grievance ...

Most Course students I've ever met cannot begin to relate to zealotry
or extremism. Have you noticed that you have embraced both, to
the exclusion of measured, rational exploration of perspectives -- for
almost 20 years?

From devotee to fascist cynic, overnight, is simply trading one
ideology for another -- while retaining both your fear of admitting
that you don't KNOW what is true, and your impatience with the
rational process of reality-testing.

The cultic mindset that you have NOT escaped is your insistence
that whatever YOU think is HOW IT IS ... that Katie has the inside
scoop (for sure, this time).

You're unreasonably insecure about UNcertainty.

Cynicism is just another kick you're on, Katie. Healthy skepticism and
measured reality-testing serves the rest of us quite nicely. As a
lifelong agnostic, I remained unable to use the word "God" or "Jesus"
in a sentence until after 10 years! of reading and testing this Course.
(I'm still examining this remarkable material with open-minded inquiry
and nimble curiosity, all these many years later.)

And when Course students lose interest or incentive, we shelve the
book -- or give it away. We pick them up again for 10 bucks used,
when interest returns. I don't even know a dozen people who spend
as much time with the Course, weekly, as you devote to this list.

The -rational- world did not embrace Lazaris & co, Katie. And
no one's bought into this *polar opposite* you've devised -- your
radical spiritual pessimism. Not here, and not on your website.
In fact, your approach (and your site) is a bust.

And the only way you can even manage anyone's attention, anymore,
is to carve your pain into subject line insults, like a child. Despite
every underhanded ploy you've come up with, you continue to fade
into dreaded obscurity, as wacky background noise on your single
remaining internet venue. You're the queen of irrelevance. Especially
now, having squandered your credibility on this position as wrecklessly
as you threw money at Lazaris. Nobody's interested in viewing the
world through Katie-colored glasses -- least of all, Course students.

You're as isolated in a wacky fringe position now, as you were as a
Lazaris devotee. Only now you've dispensed with tolerance and other
conventions of civility, and embraced militant bigotry, blackheartedly.
What is your problem, do you suppose, with allowing adults to
pursue their chosen interests, without -imposing- your emotional
and psychological arrest, through fascist extremist methods ?

Time to grow up, Katie, and quit pretending that you alone KNOW
what's real and who's conning who. You're as confused as ever, but
now you're militantly confused, as our frenzied Dipshit Diva.

Healthy skepticism might be worth exploring, as an alternative to
militant cynicism. And equitability among adults could be a healthy
concept for you to pay other than lip service to. Either one could
pull you away from that radical ledge you've been occupying
for 20 years.

Here is a list of FACTNET's recommended cult experts and exit
counselors. Help is available for those with prolonged emotional
arrest, after cult departure. Show some courage, Katie, and seek
help. It beats pigheaded bravado and soapbox self-compromise.

http://www.factnet.org/cris_xpt.htm

Get some recovery under your belt, and you could take your show
on the road, as spirituality's Don Rickles. "Dawn of the New Age"
Seriously. You're good. You could be the world's first New Age
Shock Jock.

You're just kind of messed up, right now.

And when you get into recovery, DON'T tell anyone you're addicted
to insulting. Remember: You want to convince them that you CAN
insult responsibly, one day. ;)

Easy does it, kiddo

~ Lee

ps Forgiveness is the cure for what ails you so deeply.
Go on and read this book, it's the antidote to your
anger, pain and self-loathing.

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From: "Katie" yahoo.com>
Subject: Queenie Lee Flynn Insists Upon Harassing People as a Fascist
Tactic to Prevent Scrutiny of Her Cult
Date: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:33 PM

Let's just keep the record straight about who insists upon continuing
this harassment campaign against uninvolved people.

Aren't you going to call Ted, Cowardly Queen? I'd like you to
explain to him why you feel obligated to drag his name into your own
paranoid schemes.

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