On Aug 24, 11:53 pm, keith wrote:
> On Aug 24, 8:08 pm, "SMV" aol.com> wrote:
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>> robin:You need to decide what
>> you want, and then, when you forget, decide again, and when you forget
>> again, decide again. Time will shorten the more you do it...
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>> sv: wow robin, the lesson before me -- well for today and tomorrow and well,
>> for the last few months! thanks! sheryl
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>> "Robin" gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> B. Said:
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>>> I would like to know what the Course says about grief. I find this
>>> subject very confusing now. I found this as I was taking painful steps
>>> to end my marriage, and in some ways my study of the Course helped
>>> give me the courage to move forward on my own, after many years of
>>> being a full-time parent. And seemingly miraculously, this have worked
>>> out for me much better than anyone ever expected. I found a good
>>> career again in a large corporate environment and I was able to keep
>>> our home and keep my kids in the same neighborhood, and schools etc.
>>> and they are doing very well in difficult circumstances.
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>>> I have so much to be thankful for. But I have a hard time reconciling
>>> the 'human' grief process, seemingly a natural thing, with what I have
>>> learned from the Course so far. I get that this is not real - that the
>>> goal is to see beyond the illusion and remember who I really am. But I
>>> still have all this grief that comes up from time to time from being
>>> newly divorced (1 year divorced, 1 year before that separated). I was
>>> married for 16 years, and even though much of the marriage wasn't
>>> good; much of it was and I relied on my husband for support in many
>>> ways.
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>>> Now I sometimes get totally overwhelmed at the responsibility of
>>> caring for my 2 teen daughters, the demands of work, and keeping up
>>> with the home on my own, and I start to feel very alone in the world.
>>> Often I am able to give this up to the Holy Spirit, and find peace.
>>> But other times I seem to get enveloped in the grief and can't find my
>>> way out. The pain seems like just too much to bear.
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>>> Today it seems to be centered around planning a trip. I want to do
>>> something with my girls before summer ends and I am flooded with
>>> memories of family vacations and the knowledge that those are gone
>>> forever. I recognize that some of this is 'normal' grieving... Oh, and
>>> I might have a leak in an underground sprinkler line -- I didn't even
>>> see the water on the side of the house -- the former husband pointed
>>> it out when he brought my daughters home from a visit.
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>>> I know all of this is on the level of form, and in some ways totally
>>> meaningless. How do I get this straight in my thinking? Thanks for
>>> listening -- I suppose it helps just to get it out a little.
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>>> B.
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>>> Telling you it is not real is not going to help you, but asking Holy
>>> Spirit to give you His interpretation of what appears to be happening
>>> will show you that you are relying on your own interpretation.
>>> Interpretations are not facts although our emotional investments make
>>> our interpretations appear as facts.
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>>> It you ask Holy Spirit to reinterpret what you think you are seeing
>>> and accept His unemotional interpretation your grievances will
>>> dissolve. First you could see that your addiction to the past is not
>>> grief but a grievance that is blocking the present from your sight!
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>>> There are so many reasons for grief yet none of them reinterpreted by
>>> the Holy Spirit has any validity in Reality. You need to decide what
>>> you want, and then, when you forget, decide again, and when you forget
>>> again, decide again. Time will shorten the more you do it...
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>>> I only want the Holy Spirit's interpretation of this...
>
>>> Robin
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> Hi Robin:
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> I can t speak for others, but I know that I have had such a deep well
> of pain at times, concerning 2 issues that it seemed paralytic, even
> tho I was pretty dedicated to doing the lessons etc. Gradually, a lot
> of the debris cleared up in my life, over about 10 years. But I still
> have two issues..similat to yours. But as I have become ore and more
> trained, I learn to confront them, so when I awaken, and those issues
> are there like a festering blister in my heart, I drag myself out of
> bed, and
> insist on as much time as it takes for them to go. Each time a little
> of the guilt goes. The hard part was getting out of bed, I used to
> just close my eyes and
> sleep for another several hours. So it takes courage and discipline.I
> feel free of most of it, those 2 issues have subsided a lot , but when
> they appear
> I immediately confront them with my best "mantras", and stick with it
> til they are gone.
> I also think it is very important to bring your 2 daughters into your
> sessions..not physically , of course, and don t tell them anything,but
> acknowledge them
> in your quiet time as being part of the kingdom. Remember they are
> dream figures in your mind, just as you are dream figures in their
> mind..and this is the greatest gift you can give them .You want to
> place them in the kingdom. I do it like this "Regarding (daughter), I
> am not a body , I am free, for I am still as God created me , I hear
> the voice etc. etc." but there are many other mantras of course. I
> really try to work thro the pain, but I get mad a Jesus sometimes
> with"
> Look, we both agree I dont need to suffer. Why is this guilt and pain
> still here?"
> My understanding is that the timing is very important.
> So I suggest you use the discipline, which you obviously have , and
> confront them, going thro the pain each time.It will go. And I suspect
> we all have some pretty deep issues.
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Oness and appreciation
>
> Keith
I did miss something here Robin. Because it is a big issue with me,
and my healing is involved here too, so I am glad you raised the
subject.
The Holy Spirit needs to show us the guilt, so we can get rid of it,
and He teaches through contrast. I think for most of us, the guilt is
in our minds when
the body enters the world, and lies like hidden time bombs, waiting to
eventually kill us. I believe that Jesus Christ safely diffuses these
bombs, they may be eons old, it s really amazing that we can get rid
of them in one lifetime.
But some of them have to be done a little bit at a time, and that
little bit at a time is shared in healing with all the world. What we
miss, Jesus Christ will remove at before we lay the body aside.
God bless
Keith