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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: Mar 15, 2008 19:59
On Mar 15, 2:33 pm, Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote:
But if the mind freely elects it can serve spirit and> create along the same lines as spirit's own creation, thereby giving
> spirit Self-expression via the only creative level - mind. I don't
> think mind ever ceases to be mind, though, for if it were to actually
> become spirit it would no longer be creative. It simply becomes the
> medium for spirit's Self expression. Like unto spirit but still mind.
>
> It always retains its freedom to elect to serve one or another of two
> masters. The mind's challenge is to learn to always elect to serve
> spirit.
>
> Deborah (BC)
My, my --how easily we slip into duality. Now as I understand it in
course metaphysics we have "mind," and something other than mind --a
"soul," or spirit, which is somehow NOT mind.
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Author: DeborahDeborah Date: Mar 15, 2008 21:52
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:59:36 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
netzero.com> wrote:
>On Mar 15, 2:33 pm, Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote:
> But if the mind freely elects it can serve spirit and>> create along the same lines as spirit's own creation, thereby giving
>> spirit Self...
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: Mar 15, 2008 22:55
On Mar 15, 11:52 pm, Deborah blanketyblank.com> wrote:> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:59:36 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
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> netzero.com> wrote:>>On Mar 15, 2:33 pm, Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote:
>> But if the mind freely elects it can serve spirit and>>> create along the same lines as spirit's own creation, thereby giving
>>> spirit Self-expression via the only creative level - mind. I don't
>>> think mind ever ceases to be mind, though, for if it were to actually
>>> become spirit it would no longer be creative. It simply becomes the
>>> medium for spirit's Self expression. Like unto spirit but still mind.
>
>>> It always retains its freedom to elect to serve one or another of two
>>> masters. The mind's challenge is to learn to always elect to serve
>>> spirit.
>
>>> Deborah (BC)
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Author: DeborahDeborah Date: Mar 15, 2008 23:31
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:55:17 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
netzero.com> wrote:
>When the author makes the distinction between soul and mind, as soul
>being fully created and mind as not yet fully created, then one would
>deduce that soul and mind are essentially the same thing, and it
>matters little if that same thing is called mind or soul. In other
>words, soul is perfected mind, while "mind" is not yet fully created
>and perfected soul.
I find your conclusion absurd, frankly. And you seem to be having
difficulty following my line of reasoning - perhaps because you can't
think outside the box of your oft-proclaimed philosophical training.
I'm not interested in philosophy, John. I'm interested in ACIM, and I
consider it a self-contained tome, which needs no reference to other
thought systems. I'm not interested in any of your quaint
philosophical terms.
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: Mar 16, 2008 02:14
On Mar 16, 1:31 am, Deborah blanketyblank.com> wrote:> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:55:17 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
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> netzero.com> wrote:>>When the author makes the distinction between soul and mind, as soul
>>being fully created and mind as not yet fully created, then one would
>>deduce that soul and mind are essentially the same thing, and it
>>matters little if that same thing is called mind or soul. In other
>>words, soul is perfected mind, while "mind" is not yet fully created
>>and perfected soul.
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> I find your conclusion absurd, frankly.
Well, geez --that's absurd considering you haven't begun to offer an
explanation why mind is described as not yet fully created.
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Author: Data_Collecting_MindData_Collecting_Mind Date: Mar 16, 2008 02:35
On Mar 16, 5:14Â am, Reality Scan netzero.com> wrote:> On Mar 16, 1:31 am, Deborah blanketyblank.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:55:17 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
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>>>When the author makes the distinction between soul and mind, as soul
>>>being fully created and mind as not yet fully created, then one would
>>>deduce that soul and mind are essentially the same thing, and it
>>>matters little if that same thing is called mind or soul. In other
>>>words, soul is perfected mind, while "mind" is not yet fully created
>>>and perfected soul.
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>> I find your conclusion absurd, frankly.
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> Well, geez --that's absurd considering you haven't begun to offer an
> explanation why mind is described as not yet fully created.
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> Â Â And you seem to be having
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Author: PieterPieter Date: Mar 16, 2008 09:51
> I'm attempting to answer why
> the mind is not fully created, if the mind exists and is apparently
> created.
- Where does your notion come from
that "the mind is not fully created"?
Where and how do you think
the Course says this?
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Author: MikeMike Date: Mar 16, 2008 10:38
On Mar 16, 11:51Â am, "Pieter" wrote:
>> I'm attempting to answer why
>> the mind is not fully created, if the mind exists and is apparently
>> created.
>
> - Where does your notion come from
> that "the mind is not fully created"?
> Where and how do you think
> the Course says this?
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Author: DeborahDeborah Date: Mar 16, 2008 11:56
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:38:49 -0700 (PDT), Mike yahoo.com>
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>On Mar 16, 11:51Â am, "Pieter" wrote:
>>> I'm...
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Author: giggig Date: Mar 16, 2008 12:17
> On Mar 15, 2:33 pm, Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote:
> But if the mind freely elects it can serve spirit and>> create along the same lines as spirit's own creation, thereby giving
>> spirit Self-expression via the only creative level - mind. I don't
>> think mind ever ceases to be mind, though, for if it were to actually
>> become spirit it would no longer be creative. It simply becomes the
>> medium for spirit's Self expression. Like unto spirit but still mind.
>>
>> It always retains its freedom to elect to serve one or another of two
>> masters. The mind's challenge is to learn to always elect to serve
>> spirit.
>>
>> Deborah (BC)
>
> My, my --how easily we slip into duality. Now as I understand it in
> course metaphysics we have "mind," and something other than mind --a
> "soul," or spirit, which is somehow NOT mind.
> ...
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