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Author: MikeMike Date: Mar 12, 2008 13:22
Who created the world? The answer to that question
is of paramount importance to understanding A
Course in Miracles. Yet, it seems at times that
trying to gain a clear picture of what the course
proposes is a lot like trying to herd cats. The
big question for me is this: What was going on in
Heaven when a"tiny, mad idea entered".
The Course tells in its own words and in its own
way just what occured at the separation. But it
talks about it entirely in terms of thoughts, in terms
of abstractions. Nothng wrong with that especially
for a Course that maintains that all is thought. So
instead of relating what we were 'doing' it talks
about what and how we were thinking and then
goes onto outline the ramifications of those
thoughts.
Four things occured at the moment of separation.
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Author: MikeMike Date: Mar 12, 2008 14:13
Herding Cats Part Deux
Thinking and Destiny was written by Harold
Waldwin Percival and published in 1946. He
previously edited a publication titled The
Word which contains many articles that sub-
sequently appeared in T&D where they were
expanded and elaborated upon. I came across
the book in l968 while stationed overseas in
the military.
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Author: DeborahDeborah Date: Mar 12, 2008 14:40
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:13:27 -0700 (PDT), Mike yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Percival calls this home The Eternal Order of
> Progression. He maintains that each of us is a
> part of an individual trinity. He refers to human
> beings as the doer-in-the-body; the doer for short
> It is the doer which is experiencing life on this plane.
> The other parts, the Self which remains in Heaven,
> in The Realm of Permanence in the Eternal Order
> of Progression are called respectively The Thinker
> and The Knower. The Thinker and The Knower are
> perfect and beyond error. The doer, while undergoing
> a test to balance aspects of its self, fell under the
> spell of the senses and became lost in this world of
> birth and death.
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Author: MikeMike Date: Mar 12, 2008 15:34
On Mar 12, 4:40Â pm, Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:13:27 -0700 (PDT), Mike yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Percival calls this home The Eternal Order of
>> Â Progression. Â He maintains that each of us is a
>> Â part of an individual trinity. Â He refers to human
>> Â beings as the doer-in-the-body; the doer for short
>> Â It is the doer which is experiencing life on this plane.
>> Â The other parts, the Self which remains in Heaven,
>> Â in The Realm of Permanence in the Eternal Order
>> Â of Progression are called respectively The Thinker
>> Â and The Knower. Â The Thinker and The Knower are
>> Â perfect and beyond error. Â The doer, while undergoing
>> Â a test to balance aspects of its self, fell under the
>> Â spell of the senses and became lost in this world of
>> Â birth and death.
>
> There's one big difference between Percival and ACIM in there. Â I
> would equate the Knower with the Holy Spirit (our own right mind), and ...
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Author: MikeMike Date: Mar 12, 2008 16:37
As a doer we are the imperfect part of an otherwise
perfect self. Percival created his definitions and
terms to be functional; therefore, the phrase The
Eternal Order of Progression is both functional
and descriptive. It is eternal, there is order and
along this eternal order we all progress by becoming
aware in ever increasing degrees of awareness.
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Author: MikeMike Date: Mar 13, 2008 07:59
Herding Cats Part IV
A bit more about the fall of man. T&D states
that the test to balance feeling and desire
involved separating the two from each other.
Desire was placed in a male body. Feeling
was placed in a female body. A successful
completion of the test would have been for
the two to recognize each other as intricate
and necessary parts of each other. Instead
those of us who fell, who failed the test, got
lost in the process and began to identify with
and as the body. Instead of recognizing the
spirit within we mistook the body for the
self and procreated. This was the act of
miscreation
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Author: PieterPieter Date: Mar 13, 2008 08:04
> Who created the world? The answer to that question
> is of paramount importance to understanding A
> Course in Miracles. Yet, it seems at times that
> trying to gain a clear picture of what the...
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Author: MikeMike Date: Mar 13, 2008 08:57
On Mar 13, 10:04Â am, "Pieter" wrote:
>> Who created the world? Â The answer to that question
>> Â is of paramount importance to understanding A
>> Â Course in Miracles. Â Yet, it seems at times that
>> Â trying to gain a clear picture of what the course
>> Â proposes is a lot like trying to herd cats. Â The
>> Â big question for me is this: Â What was going on in
>> Â Heaven when a"tiny, mad idea entered".
>
>> Â The Course tells in its own words and in its own
>> Â way just what occured at the separation. Â But it
>> Â talks about it entirely in terms of thoughts, in terms
>> Â of abstractions. Â Nothng wrong with that especially
>> Â for a Course that maintains that all is thought. Â So ...
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Author: suebrdsuebrd Date: Mar 13, 2008 09:07
While we're waiting for the stirring conclusion (you write
beautifully, Mike) here's a human interest story that seems related:
http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=3682
Mar 13, 6:59 am, Mike yahoo.com> wrote:
> Herding Cats Part IV
>
> A bit more about the fall of man. T&D states
> that the test to balance feeling and desire
> involved...
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Author: MikeMike Date: Mar 13, 2008 09:15
On Mar 13, 11:07Â am, sue...@ aol.com wrote:
> While we're waiting for the stirring conclusion (you write
> beautifully, Mike) here's a human interest story that seems related:
>
> http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=3682
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> Mar 13, 6:59 am, Mike yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Herding Cats Part IV
>
>> Â A bit more about the fall of man. Â T&D states
>> Â that the test to balance feeling and desire
>> Â involved separating the two from each other.
>> Â Desire was placed in a male body. Â Feeling
>> Â was placed in a female body. Â A successful
>> Â completion of the test would have been for
>> Â the two to recognize each other as intricate
>> Â and necessary parts of each other. Â Instead ...
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