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Author: CarrieCarrie Date: Oct 14, 2007 13:43
"The form of the hatred, be it words or actions,
*can* be perceived and recognized, while not
any hatred is being experienced; *only* a call for love."
Sort of like "in the world but not of it"
A person can be seen (observed) as feeling hatred or anger, attack,
etc but if the observer isn't come from ego (is in Right Mind/Spirit)
it will just be observed, and seen as what it is, a call for love.
I don't think this always means love, as in nice sounded words,
hugs, saying "I love you" in words, this usually makes the person
caught up in fear ( ego) all the more afraid and angry.
This gets into asking for Guidance, like "what would You have me
say? ... do?...."
Sometimes, maybe a lot of the time, if asked in an objective
observer (not from ego) way, the answer would be "nothing".
"I love you and I set you free" which is, I would think, usually
thought and not put into actual words.
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Author: PieterPieter Date: Oct 14, 2007 14:02
> "The form of the hatred, be it words or actions,
> *can* be perceived and recognized, while not
> any hatred is being experienced; *only* a call for love."
>
> Sort of like "in the world but not of it"
>
> A person can be seen (observed) as feeling hatred or anger, attack,
> etc but if the observer isn't come from ego (is in Right Mind/Spirit)
> it will just be observed, and seen as what it is, a call for love.
Yes: that's what I meant; even when the person
*expresses* "hatred or anger, attack, etc".
> I don't think this always means love, as in nice sounded words,
> hugs, saying "I love you" in words, this usually makes the person
> caught up in fear ( ego) all the more afraid and angry.
>
> This gets into asking for Guidance, like "what would You have me
> say? ... do?...."
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Author: CarrieCarrie Date: Oct 14, 2007 14:51
"Pieter" wrote in message
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>> "The form of the hatred, be it words or actions,
>> *can* be perceived and recognized, while not
>> any hatred is being experienced; *only* a call for love."
>>
>> Sort of like "in the world but not of it"
>>
>> A person can be seen (observed) as feeling hatred or anger, attack,
>> etc but if the observer isn't come from ego (is in Right Mind/Spirit)
>> it will just be observed, and seen as what it is, a call for love.
>
> Yes: that's what I meant; even when the person
> *expresses* "hatred or anger, attack, etc".
>
>> I don't think this always means love, as in nice sounded words,
>> hugs, saying "I love you" in words, this usually makes the person ...
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Author: deb_lotus_txdeb_lotus_tx Date: Oct 14, 2007 15:10
"Carrie" kingcon.com> wrote in message
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> "Pieter" wrote in message
> news:471283fd$0$11118$bf4948fe@news.tele2.nl...
>>> "The form of the hatred, be it words or actions,
>>> *can* be perceived and recognized, while not
>>> any hatred is being experienced; *only* a call for love."
>>>
>>> Sort of like "in the world but not of it"
>>>
>>> A person can be seen (observed) as feeling hatred or anger, attack,
>>> etc but if the observer isn't come from ego (is in Right Mind/Spirit)
>>> it will just be observed, and seen as what it is, a call for love.
>>
>> Yes: that's what I meant; even when the person
>> *expresses* "hatred or anger, attack, etc". ...
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: Oct 14, 2007 15:17
On Oct 14, 4:02 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
>> A person can be seen (observed) as feeling hatred or anger, attack,
>> etc but if the observer isn't come from ego (is in Right Mind/Spirit)
>> it will just be observed, and seen as what it is, a call for love.
>
> Yes: that's what I meant; even when the person
> *expresses* "hatred or anger, attack, etc".
Course basics on an highly unethical "course discussion," newsgroup
which tolerates, incites, and encourages attack as an authentic and
legitimate part of course discussion and course teaching. In other
words, justifying attack, by various ploys and arguments..
Amazing the handful of people who actually believe this justification
is useful, educational and ethical are on TRCM.
Too funny. Sort of like teaching chastity in a whorehouse.
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Author: PieterPieter Date: Oct 14, 2007 23:54
> On Oct 14, 4:02 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
>
>>> A person can be seen (observed) as feeling hatred or anger, attack,
>>> etc but if the observer isn't come from ego (is in Right Mind/Spirit)
>>> it will just be observed, and seen as what it is, a call for love.
>>
>> Yes: that's what I meant; even when the person
>> *expresses* "hatred or anger, attack, etc".
>
> Course basics on an highly unethical "course discussion," newsgroup
> which tolerates, incites, and encourages attack as an authentic and
> legitimate part of course discussion and course teaching. In other
> words, justifying attack, by various ploys and arguments.
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: Oct 15, 2007 00:32
On Oct 15, 1:54 am, "Pieter" wrote:
>> On Oct 14, 4:02 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
>
>>>> A person can be seen (observed) as feeling hatred or anger, attack,
>>>> etc but if the observer isn't come from ego (is in Right Mind/Spirit)
>>>> it will just be observed, and seen as what it is, a call for love.
>
>>> Yes: that's what I meant; even when the person
>>> *expresses* "hatred or anger, attack, etc".
>
>> Course basics on an highly unethical "course discussion," newsgroup
>> which tolerates, incites, and encourages attack as an authentic and
>> legitimate part of course discussion and course teaching. In other
>> words, justifying...
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Author: ellenellen Date: Oct 15, 2007 00:53
On Oct 14, 11:54 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
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> - Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
So beautiful Pieter. I've never heard this said before.
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: Oct 15, 2007 02:41
> On Oct 14, 4:02 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
>
>>> A person can be seen (observed) as feeling hatred or anger, attack,
>>> etc but if the observer isn't come from ego (is in Right Mind/Spirit)
>>> it will just be observed, and seen as what it is, a call for love.
>>
>> Yes: that's what I meant; even when the person
>> *expresses* "hatred or anger, attack, etc".
>
> Course basics on an highly unethical "course discussion," newsgroup
> which tolerates, incites, and encourages attack as an authentic and
> legitimate part of course discussion and course teaching. In other
> words, justifying attack, by various ploys and arguments.
John, this is how you seem to wish to see this ng.
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Author: CarrieCarrie Date: Oct 15, 2007 05:08
> On Oct 14, 11:54 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>
>> - Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
>
> So beautiful Pieter. I've never heard this said before.
>
I know, it is beautiful. Sounds like something similiar to The Prophet.
Ta;;ling (words) has such potential, in a good way and in a negative.
http://leb.net/~mira/works/prophet/prophet.html
Talking
And then a scholar said, "Speak of Talking."
And he answered, saying:
You talk when you cease to be at peace with your thoughts;
And when you can no longer dwell in the solitude of your heart you live in
your lips, and sound is a diversion and a pastime.
And in much of your talking, thinking is half murdered.
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