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Author: RobinRobin Date: Jul 10, 2007 14:02
Questions about - The Disappearance of the Universe?
>I guess for starters I am confused about the title. Why would he suggest the possible disappearance of the >universe unless he is convinced that it was not created by God.
Because "it" the universe of form, was not created by God...
>And yet ACIM tells me -Everything MEETS in God because everything was created BY Him and IN him.
Yes everything was created by Him, but the form universe...
>From that I go to - the universe was created by God.
Yes this is the temptation, to impose duality on God, both you & God
cannot both exist. I know this is a difficult one but if you take it
into your meditation you will get it!
>And God everything God creates is eternal, therefore the universe will always be, as will the world, onlynot in its >physical state, which came whenego/separation/illusion seemingly altered God'screation, which He created >perfect and unalterable.
I say, "I am not here, you are not here, the world is not here. There
is nothing but God, all else is the folly of illusion including all of
that I seem to be..." Atonement is going home, leaving the constructed
world/self and choosing ONLY God...
"There is no world" was taught by the Buddha, by Jesus and by the
great Hindu Saints - it is not a new idea in the world but it is
almost impossible to grasp it here.
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Author: Gene Ward SmithGene Ward Smith Date: Jul 10, 2007 18:17
> Yes this is the temptation, to impose duality on God, both you & God
> cannot both exist. I know this is a difficult one but if you take it
> into your meditation you will get it!
Pure ego thinking. This is what I keep pointing out the Course calls this
stuff, to little avail.
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Author: RobinRobin Date: Jul 10, 2007 21:59
On Jul 10, 6:17 pm, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:>> Yes this is the temptation, to impose duality on God, both you & God
>> cannot both exist. I know this is a difficult one but if you take it
>> into your meditation you will get it!
>
> Pure ego thinking. This is what I keep pointing out the Course calls this
> stuff, to little avail.
You really believe the dream has some part of it that is real don't
you Gene... ???
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Author: DeborahDeborah Date: Jul 10, 2007 22:25
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:59:50 -0000, Robin gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Jul 10, 6:17 pm, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:>>> Yes this is the temptation, to impose duality on God, both you & God
>>> cannot both exist. I know this is a difficult one but if you take it
>>> into your meditation you will get it!
>>
>> Pure ego thinking. This is what I keep pointing out the Course calls this
>> stuff, to little avail.
>
>You really believe the dream has some part of it that is real don't
>you Gene... ???
He said today that "the dream" is just metaphor. I don't agree with
that. I think that's one area where the course is literal.
Deborah (BC)
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Author: RobinRobin Date: Jul 10, 2007 22:35
On Jul 10, 10:25 pm, Deborah noemail.com> wrote:> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:59:50 -0000, Robin gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>On Jul 10, 6:17 pm, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:>
>>>> Yes this is the temptation, to impose duality on God, both you & God
>>>> cannot both exist. I know this is a difficult one but if you take it
>>>> into your meditation you will get it!
>
>>> Pure ego thinking. This is what I keep pointing out the Course calls this
>>> stuff, to little avail.
>
>>You really believe the dream has some part of it that is real don't
>>you Gene... ???
>
> He said today that "the dream" is just metaphor. I don't agree with
> that. I think that's one area where the course is literal.
> ...
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Author: Lee FlynnLee Flynn Date: Jul 10, 2007 22:54
> On Jul 10, 6:17 pm, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:>>> Yes this is the temptation, to impose duality on God, both you & God
>>> cannot both exist. I know this is a difficult one but if you take it
>>> into your meditation you will get it!
>>
>> Pure ego thinking. This is what I keep pointing out the Course calls
>> this
>> stuff, to little avail.
>
> You really believe the dream has some part of it that is real don't
> you Gene... ???
If YOU are real, Robin, then every moment of your
experience is real. You IMPART reality by merit of
what you are.
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Author: RobinRobin Date: Jul 10, 2007 23:23
On Jul 10, 10:54 pm, "Lee Flynn" att.net> wrote:> Robin gmail.com> wrote:>> On Jul 10, 6:17 pm, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:>
>>>> Yes this is the temptation, to impose duality on God, both you & God
>>>> cannot both exist. I know this is a difficult one but if you take it
>>>> into your meditation you will get it!
>
>>> Pure ego thinking. This is what I keep pointing out the Course calls
>>> this
>>> stuff, to little avail.
>
>> You really believe the dream has some part of it that is real don't
>> you Gene... ???
>
> If YOU are real, Robin, then every moment of your
> experience is real. You IMPART reality by merit of
> what you are. ...
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Author: RobinRobin Date: Jul 10, 2007 23:29
On Jul 10, 11:01 pm, Deborah noemail.com> wrote:> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:54:17 GMT, "Lee Flynn" att.net>
> wrote:
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>>>Robin gmail.com> wrote:>>> On Jul 10, 6:17 pm, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:>
>>>>> Yes this is the temptation, to impose duality on God, both you & God
>>>>> cannot both exist. I know this is a difficult one but if you take it
>>>>> into your meditation you will get it!
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>>>> Pure ego thinking. This is what I keep pointing out the Course calls
>>>> this
>>>> stuff, to little avail. ...
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Author: LeeLee Date: Jul 10, 2007 23:41
Deborah noemail.com> wrote:> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:54:17 GMT, "Lee Flynn" att.net>
> wrote:
>>> Robin gmail.com> wrote:>>> On Jul 10, 6:17 pm, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:>>>>> Yes this is the temptation, to impose duality on God, both you &
>>>>> God cannot both exist. I know this is a difficult one but if you
>>>>> take it into your meditation you will get it!
>>>>
>>>> Pure ego thinking. This is what I keep pointing out the Course
>>>> calls this
>>>> stuff, to little avail.
>>>
>>> You really believe the dream has some part of it that is real don't
>>> you Gene... ???
>> ...
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