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  Re: CIAR         


Author: gig
Date: Feb 24, 2008 15:55

"James" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xo2wj.84872$LD6.2596@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "One" nospam.com> wrote in message
>
>> There is always truth between truth and illusion -- even in your brand
>> of spirituality.
>
> The fact is One (Mike?) - that thoughts simply appear don't they? You
> don't choose them - that's just another thought. Thoughts simply and
> spontaneously erupt don't they? You don't need to understand this
> conceptually - just see for yourself. Its easy. Sit down and spend a
> moment and you will see that thoughts simply occur to you yes?
>
> So no there is no illusion and truth - that's all nonsense. Its all
> truth. What thinks otherwise IS the illusion. Sure - paradox.
>
> But to think you can choose truth over illusion - that is nonsense!
> That's you thinking you are the choice-maker - the choice maker is a
> phantom - it is an illusion - it does not exist in Reality!!
> ...
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  Answers to "attack"         


Author: Carrie
Date: Feb 24, 2008 15:11

"Forgiveness is the answer to attack of any kind. So is attack
deprived of its effects, and hate is answered in the name of love."

Or, set up a special egroup to respond to what's seen as attacks.

Just different ways of seeing it and responding (okay, attempting to
remember and respond, but it's there to remember at some point)

Just seems like the course way is easier and doesn't create more
resentment, anger, and counter attack.

It's probably based on what do you want to come from the methods you
use?

I think James said somewhere the new group might be short lived.
Maybe they need a safe place to write their side of it (those in eots)
and once they get it out of their system, it will be over and done.

I think what most people usually want in such a situation is to feel
they (their side of it) have been heard.

Not meant as a lecture, or making anyone right or wrong, just
observation. Since I'm not personally involved in it, it's easier to
see all the aspects of it, and not automatically take sides.
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  Answers to personal attacks         


Author: wadepot-acim
Date: Feb 24, 2008 12:47

As all of you know, I (and friends of mine) have been the subject of
many unfounded (some founded) personal attacks through the years most
of which were not answered. In the future I will be answering some of
these personal attacks on James new list such as the fact that Bill
owes me money which is why he left EOTS and not the reasons he touts
over and over and things such as that. (one can finally get completely
sick and tired of lies). I will not be responding here because as you
well now this is just a flaming list and nothing of substance happens
here.
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  When is the Wayne Ass Whooping going to get started, John?         


Author: Katie
Date: Feb 24, 2008 12:20

He's here invading, you're not defending Jesus, God, and Maz!

I was hoping for some more of that bloodshed like the last time!
Could you let me know when you're planning on getting things started,
so I can make sure to have some hot popcorn ready?

Thanks!!
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  Wayne is God!         


Author: Carrie.is.always.right
Date: Feb 24, 2008 06:31

Any questions?

LOL
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  To all ex-cult members         


Author: thula
Date: Feb 24, 2008 03:45

Once in my life I was part of a movement/cult for 4 months. It was
enough to change my thinking for the rest of my life. It was hard to
leave. It was much harder to lose the brainwashing that needed to be
undone.

So as long as all ex-EOTS'ers are still trying to get the other to
'face up to their 'shit' they have not left at all. These 'spiderwebs'
of thought are very sticky.

The longest journey begins with one small step. Who here wants to try?

with love and light
thula
anyone willing might consider joining healing-minds-miracles - a
closed group, not for secrecy reasons, but for reasons of providing
safe place where healing just might happen.
http://tiny.cc/hmm
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  What is TESTOLERANCE.COM ? ? ?         


Author: asktheguru
Date: Feb 23, 2008 20:12

Testolerance = Started one day oct.2006
I entered a contest on line for current T.V.
An Al Gore InVention ... for REAL ...LOL
L@@K 4 It online & on T.V. its purdy COOL channel ... REAL People REAL
Stuff NOTedited
It was based on making a 5-7 minute docu. on the Topic of TOLERANCE
They said to film your Views on tolerance good/bad on what ever issues
bother you or take hold ..
I had 2 weeks to make a movie
I bought my 1st. camera a $ 99.00 specail the walgrens ... I went out
& just started filming ...
I have footage on ... Homeless guys , Kids , Seniors ... lots of
differant races ...
I found 1 thing in common That is that we all want , need , desire the
same things ...
& when we are not loking at who we are talking with we tend to agree
alot more than when we see what the other looks like ...
And I also found That the issues that We say matter & that we are
doing something about ...is realy the opposite ...
The things that we tolerate are the things we should NOT ... ...
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  Forrest Gump         


Author: Carrie
Date: Feb 23, 2008 17:06

I was just writing about the movie Forrest Gump, in regard to the
line "Stupid is as Stupid Does" and about 20 mins later. the movie
just came on TV (maybe they are showing Oscar winners because of the
award show tomorrow night)

I've seen this movie so many times and still tempted to leave it on
and watch it again.

There's so much good in it.
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  Preview....         


Author: James
Date: Feb 23, 2008 15:22

Here's the first post (well OK the third but who's counting)

I will be doing my level best to coral Wayne in to saying some stuff about
all this too - so come take a break from things and loosen up your vocals
and join the fun. :-)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anotherviewofacim/

You are and you aware that you are.

This is the basic starting point.

This - and only this - can be said for sure.

All else is based upon a concept. But you know that you are without
having to think about it. You simply know it. The proof is you
yourself. You need nothing outside of yourself to verify that you
are. You know you are.

This is what we will keep coming back to.

This is the starting point.

This is the truth of who you are. That is the bit that can not be
threatened - that's the 'nothing real can be threatened' bit.

The Truth of who you are can not be threatened.
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  Re: To Gig.         


Author: James
Date: Feb 23, 2008 15:12

Oh - and btw - this is all that Wayne has ever tried to point out to
anybody - this is what he is pointing at - I know some people here may find
that hard to believe - but in truth that's all he has ever been trying to
do.

:-)
> You are starting from the error and trying to work backwards - try working
> from the fact of the matter and working forwards. Start with something
> that
> is undoubtable. What is undoubtable? What...
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