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Author: CarrieCarrie
Date: Mar 24, 2008 19:43
Journey Beyond Words
by Brent Haskell, PhD.D.O. 1994
INTRODUCTION
Greetings. I am Jeshua. I have come to discuss with you
A Course in Miracles.
Even as you begin,
Be aware that it is possible
For you to be misled by its name
In your world,
When you hear the word "course," you think of learning.
But you are not here to learn.
You are here to experience.
And you will find, with great joy,
That there is a dramatic difference between the two.
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Author: hgarcia64hgarcia64
Date: Mar 24, 2008 18:03
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an article similar to this
that said...
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Author: giggig
Date: Mar 24, 2008 13:48
"Gene Ward Smith" chewbacca.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9A6AEE83A6D9Dgenewardsmithsbcglob@207.115.17.102...> We are told that the Son has the capacity, lacking in Father and Holy
> Spirit, of believing in error. We are also told that the Son is a
> perfect creation. This really only makes sense if the ability to
> believe in error is a part of the Son's perfection. Yet how can this be?
>
> A perfect outcome of all things is sure. We are told that God's will
> will be done. The outcome is a part of God's eternal world, but the
> sin and pain of separation is not. If God creates His Son with the
> maximum of creative freedom, and if doing this leads to the best
> outcome, it becomes understandable. On this view, the outcome of having
> the Son created prior in order of cause and effect...
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Author: giggig
Date: Mar 24, 2008 13:47
"MikeRyder" nospam.com> wrote in message
news:dnjeu3d3k5urjr4vebkshgoj7te5j9ksfh@4ax.com...> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:10:30 -0400, "gig" lycos.com> wrote:
>>>But you're still experiencing yourself, your own existence. And that's not
>>"nothing" IMHO.
>
> You would have to "be there," gig, to understand nothingness -- "no
> thing."
So why can't I (the real me) "be there"? Where else could "I" be?
I understand nothingness, the "no thing" concept we're talking about here,
and what I'm saying is it's only half the picture, because without the
tangible, palpable, experience-able, other half of "no thing", it's all
pointless. The Father ("no thing") without the Son (His Divine Expression -
i.e. "everything") for all intents and purposes, is nonexistent. It's all
one though.
Your statement seems to indicate only that ego can be aware of itself. How
can I experience anything, including myself (real and/or imagined), without
being aware of it? The void is not our home.
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Author: giggig
Date: Mar 24, 2008 13:46
"MikeRyder" nospam.com> wrote in message
news:sfjeu39tfcohu1vousgcs5h3ce67qdmcgo@4ax.com...> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:17:42 -0400, "gig" lycos.com> wrote:>>
>>Well, stuff like not knowing the history of our politics with the middle
>>east beyond what's going on now. Like how we used to be behind Saddam
>>Hussein
>>when he severed our purposes back in the early 80's. How we used and even
>>helped create some of the current terrorist groups back in the Cold War
>>era, and how some of those same groups are coming back to bite us in the
>>ass now. We never seem to want to see the bigger picture. But people will
>>spend
>>a lot of time trying to figure out something like the Bible Code instead
>>of dealing
>>with real people and real issues. That's why I said the Bible Code and ...
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Author: giggig
Date: Mar 24, 2008 13:23
"Deborah" pumpetypump.com> wrote in message
news:t8leu3hh5n9g124n828ua7n22n55l9vp77@4ax.com...> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:53:51 -0400, "gig" lycos.com> wrote:
>>>"Deborah" pumpetypump.com> wrote in message
>>news:8b8du3pfr4l2idchenjt7qb5300v13a3hh@4ax.com...>>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:10:30 -0400, "gig" lycos.com> wrote:>>>>
>>>>But you're still experiencing yourself, your own existence. And that's
>>>>not
>>>>"nothing" IMHO.
>>>
>>> It is nothing, actually. I can't experience myself.
>>
>>Sure you can.
>>
>>> I can only BE it.
>>
>>Being is experiencing. Same thing.
>> ...
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Author: giggig
Date: Mar 24, 2008 13:21
"who" here.com> wrote in message news:...
"Deborah" pumpetypump.com> wrote in message
news:4hkeu3l3itrevus99fgdmqg147j48faj6d@4ax.com...> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:15:23 -0400, "gig" lycos.com> wrote:
>>>> I wonder where the idea of
>>> "being awareness itself" comes from.
>>
>>It's an "eastern" concept no doubt, and only half the picture. I used to
>>think it was the cat's meow, but the now I see it's really just an excuse
>>to die. It sounds like a pretty grandiose state of being, but it's pretty
>>grandless when you get right down to it.
>
> Actually, the idea that we have exchanged limitlessness for littleness
> is pure ACIM. But never mind that...
Sure. But I don't think we're talking about the same thing then. Perhaps
it's just semantics, or maybe I'm just not making the connection, but
anything that leads to "nothingness" is not a course idea IMHO.
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Author: MikeMike
Date: Mar 24, 2008 09:02
This is my story, my telling, and I post it with
some trepidation. It almost makes me wish
that I had not used my real name here. Really.
In 1974 I was twenty-seven years old, married
and living in Ft. Wayne, Indiana, my wife's home
town. It was late February or early March. There
was a foreign film festival playing at the local
college. Pat and I and another couple were going
to see an English film production of Hamlet. I was
looking forward to going eventhough the temperature
outside was minus ten. Two days earlier it had
been sixty, and I had played golf.
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