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  Re: An Alternative to mainstream beliefs about ACIM         


Author: gig
Date: May 28, 2007 19:56

"mr bill" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> god can create a son that can do something that god himself cannot do?

Nope. Only one that believes he can.
> it seems to me that the very fact that the son can be imperfect means that
> the father is imperfect.

The Son cannot be imperfect. But He can believe he can be.
> until the son realizes his perfection, the father is not whole, and is
> therefore imperfect.

Until the Son realizes His perfection, He will believe this. The Father is
whole though, regardless of what the Son believes.
> in my universe everything is part of god, even what i might look at and
> call "imperfect" has to be perfect for god to be perfect.

I agree. I think it's just a matter of seeing it from either the ego's point
of view or the Holy Spirits'. Either way though, it's all God.
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  Re: An Alternative to mainstream beliefs about ACIM         


Author: Stephen Calder
Date: May 28, 2007 19:54

mr bill wrote:
> god can create a son that can do something that god himself cannot do?

No, but he did create a son who believed the impossible had occurred.

--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia
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  Re: An Alternative to mainstream beliefs about ACIM         


Author: Stephen Calder
Date: May 28, 2007 19:53

mr bill wrote:
> logic has nothing to do with it, my boy.
> :)
>

It does. You've got yourself into a logical twist, not because God
depends on logic, but because your application of concepts defies logic
and leads you to impossible conclusions.

--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia
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  Re: An Alternative to mainstream beliefs about ACIM         


Author: Stephen Calder
Date: May 28, 2007 19:51

mr bill wrote:
> you seem to believe that god gives a whit about logic. logic is a human
> concept, not a divine concept. either omnipotent means that god can do
> anything, period, or the whole idea of omnipotence is just so much bullshit.
>

Omnipotence, as you insist on applying the concept, is just so much
bullshit.

Omnipotence does not confer an ability to do what cannot be done. God
cannot terminate his own existence, for example.

--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia
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  Re: An Alternative to mainstream beliefs about ACIM         


Author: Stephen Calder
Date: May 28, 2007 19:48

mr bill wrote:
> why?
>

Why what?

--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia
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  Re: War of Willpowers.         


Author: Stephen Calder
Date: May 28, 2007 19:47

mr bill wrote:
> ok, i would be interested in seeing what evidence you base that on.
>

The evidence is cultural.

I don't think it matters as much as some people like to think.

--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia
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  Re: An Alternative to mainstream beliefs about ACIM         


Author: gig
Date: May 28, 2007 19:47

Not in the sense we think of judging. God's "judgment" is always "This is my
beloved Son in whom I am well pleased." But through the Holy Spirit, what's
illusion and what's truth is "judged" (decided) for lack of a better word
there.

"mr bill" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> god judges?
>
> --
>
> http://www.myspace.com/mrbill069
> http://blog.myspace.com/mrbill069
>
> Bill & Lindsay...
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  Re: An Alternative to mainstream beliefs about ACIM         


Author: Gene Ward Smith
Date: May 28, 2007 19:46

"mr bill" yahoo.com> wrote in
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> you seem to believe that god gives a whit about logic. logic
is a
> human concept, not a divine concept. either omnipotent means
that god
> can do anything, period, or the whole idea of omnipotence is
just so
> much bullshit.
>

"Omnipotence" is a human word, expressing human thinking. It's
not, incidentally, a word the Course uses, though ACIM does
tell us all power comes from God.
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Author: mr bill
Date: May 28, 2007 19:42

g'nite peeps
:)

--

http://www.myspace.com/mrbill069
http://blog.myspace.com/mrbill069

Bill & Lindsay Wagoner - Parents
Elizabeth Nicole Wagoner (Libby)
Always and Forever
Our Baby Girl

2 Sept 1995 - 28 Mar 2006
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  Re: An Alternative to mainstream beliefs about ACIM         


Author: Stephen Calder
Date: May 28, 2007 19:40

mr bill wrote:
> god judges?
>

Yes. Judges everything as being perfect.

--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia
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