"maz" hotmai.com> wrote in message
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>
> " I don't think God cares if people use him in their lies."
> ~ Carrie Starchild
>
>>>>> who contemptibly set
>>> themselves up as a Teacher of God or anti-cult cults.'
>
>>>What do you base this on?
>
> Partly on your rediculous claims that despicable asocial behavior
> is to be justified by Course teaching and merely "open and honest.".
>
>>> How does it apply to what ACIM teaches?
>
> To disguise chaos teaching, justification for abuse and slander,
> argueing for the right of people to commit acts of discreditation,
> public humiliation, attempts for character assasination and other
> unethical
> and clearly contemptible messages that resemble what society
> commonly sees as hate crimes, with concepts of "Divine Love and Freedom"
> or as "good Course practise", is commonly recognized as
> contemptible misrepresentation and disinformation.
Can you give quotes and reference to where it teaches this in the
course?
And, how are your disclaimers any different? You abuse, slander,
publically humiliate (even though you don't use my name
now, you have had- and mispellings of it, used at put downs, in the past)
attempts at character assasination (same) contemptible messages? What
do you think YOU write here?
If anyone is calling good course practise as contemptible
misrepresentaion and disinformation it's you.
people have tried to tell you this, and gave up.
>
>>> Why is Penny poppin in for a quick smear when she's speaking the truth
> (her truth) in a polite and sincere way?:
> She doesn't even seem to be taking sides in this.<<
>
> LOL!
>
>>> What if a REAL newbie comes and reads here and questions your
>>> disclaimers
> and warnings and judgments and insults and asks you how this relates to A
> Course in Miracles?<<
>
> I'd say they should be well aware of your personal on-line history and
> perseverance of fronting for Dean, including scheming and plotting to harm
> genuine Course students. Your behavior is to be exposed
> and that is completely in line with looking at the pitfalls
> of chaos teaching and disinformation tactics in the name of ACIM.
>
To continue the course discussion and keep in line with the TRC-M
charter, what does the course teach about "the past", it's reality
and using it to base a judgement about a brother on?
What does it say, for that matter, about making decisions on one's own?
Are you saying you asked Holy Spirit for Guidance and what you got
was to post disclaimers, calling others names, and deciding who and what
they are, and how others should also see them, based on the past, and your
own ego issues with them?
I'd still like to know where, in the course, it tells you (anyone) how
to judge and decide is someone else is a "Teacher of God" or not.
As for me declaring that about myself, I still do. I was and am Guided
to. If others don't see me any differently, maybe even worse, well that's
their projection/perception and not me. It's me who sees things differently
and asks for Guidance about what to write and how to respond here.
Actually, by reading and responding to me, you aren't going by your
own rules for the NG, where you demand that others ignores those you have
deemed unworthy of acceptance and love.
While people coming here "should" be aware of my past history here
(according toi you, but the emails you post from 5 years ago, have/had
nothning to do with this newsgroup, I wasn't even part of then. Only to the
extend others here brought it up over and over), and this is fine with me, I
have nothing to hide or defend, at the same time, you making anyone aware of
posts about me, also makes people aware of posts about you, in the process.
I don't care if everyone coming here and reading what you write and
looking in search finds everything others have written about me (and also my
posts here) and decides you are right. It's not up to me to decide how
someone else sees me, or anyone else for that matter.
I come here for course discussion and lessons, and I appreciate the
teachers who take the time to offer this.
> " I don't think God cares if people use him in their lies."
> ~ Carrie Starchild
>
> Note: To educate yourself about Carrie Starchild's internet history of
> stating
> facts, of fronting for trolling Katie Dean, for structured abuse in the
> name
> of ACIM,
> and see her scheming and plotting to slander Course students, if you want
> to
> avoid to be in co-dependency and refuse to enable her displayed, ongoing
> insantity, go here:
>
>
http://tinyurl.com/ouhzx (Google group portal server link)
>
>>> Will they get told off like you did Penny?
>
> I have presented facts and arguments to refute the nonsense she wrote.
>
>>> You have got yourself into a situation you can't get out of, you have
> to
> keep defending your stand about this, or admit you might not be totally
> RIGHT. Though you can always say you asked Holy Spirit and HE told you to
> do it.<<
>
> LOL again. The one defending the right of smear artists
> to get a free pass around here, in ACIM's name, is obvious.
> I'd say this lacks an audience, and this was long due.
>
> namazt