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Author: PieterPieter
Date: Dec 7, 2006 10:50
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> Even what ACIM calls "Truth" with a capital T is coming from each
> person's perception of what that is.
It is just *the other way round*:
each one's perception is coming from the Truth.
And our perceptions must be healed, or corrected,
in order that we regain Knowledge Itself at last.
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Author: PieterPieter
Date: Dec 7, 2006 10:32
"A" b.com> schreef in bericht
news:zPednYu32JbKq-XYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@adelphia.com...> Pieter wrote:
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>> "A" b.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:svSdnRzSqv_9FerYnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@adelphia.com...
>>>>>Carrie wrote:
>>>
>>>>Tom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Carrie "Also, the fact that all illusion is "untrue", even though
>>>>>one person's truth seems to be different than anothers, neither of
>>>>>them is actually true (and thus more right than someone else's)"
>>>>>
>>>>>~ The passage you quoted doesn't say what you seem to think it says.
>>>>>Overall what it is saying is the idea, "everyone has his own truth" is
>>>>>NOT true. Second, and more significantly, the passage is tied to the
>>>>>idea of relative VALUATION.
>>>>> ...
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Author: PieterPieter
Date: Dec 7, 2006 10:26
"Tom" yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
news:9o1gn2hbebquc8fqh5r73cjdmp54v6cjm7@4ax.com...
> Pieter "This paragraph causes that Carrie is
> no longer in a position to hear what
> you say below. Why first slap her in
> the face? Why should this proceed
> your message to her? Do you want
> *not* to be heard?"
- To start with: I meant "precede" instead of "proceed".
> ~ You don't know that, Pieter.
- I suppose this a response to my first sentence.
Imo simple knowledge of manners is
enough to understand that the following:
>>Your "guidance" is fucked, Carrie. That
>>much should be evident from the fact we
>>all think you're entirely full of shit.
will be experienced as rude, to say the least.
> It might be a good as a preliminary
> working hypothesis, but there is nothing inherently true about it.
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Author: CarmenCarmen
Date: Dec 7, 2006 10:24
It's a very busy day for me, dear Sharon, but I just had to come on
just to say that **I'm am so very happy for you** and for the fact
that you shared this with all of us!
(Putting it in the permanent record will also help you at those times
when you begin to doubt it happened, too. :-)
Sharing in the warmth and hope that's been given to you to share,
with love,
always,
Carmen
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 23:33:58 -0500, "Sharon" comcast.net>
wrote:
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>Hi all,
>
>I spent some time in meditation tonight.. and it was quite
>healing and peaceful. Thought I would share it with you..
>because it brought me a lot of comfort. In meditation, I
>admitted...
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Author: PieterPieter
Date: Dec 7, 2006 09:56
"gig" lycos.com> schreef in bericht
news:pIydncZuHa7OleXYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com...> "Pieter" wrote in message
> news:45780050$0$2962$bf4948fe@news.tele2.nl...
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>> "gig" lycos.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:oo2dnTBfEOIPCOrYnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...>>> "A" b.com> wrote in message
>>> news:cJSdnYnTN_OaFurYnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@adelphia.com...>>>> gig wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Carrie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't care what you and others believe, I'm not going to lie
>>>>>>>and pretend and say okay your way is right, it's what ACIM REALLY
>>>>>>>SAYS
>>>>>>>(in black and white) and no room for any other perceptions of it ...
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Author: kenarronkenarron
Date: Dec 7, 2006 07:39
Dec 7, 2006, 7:36am From: bluefire1@ comcast.net (Sharon)
The first time...it was not quoted as to who said what...so I am going
to send a version that is clearer to understand the conversation. :)
Kay shared:
~~Love that you choose to share this with us Sharon. ; - )
Sharon responded:
Thanks.. and I loved sharing it with you!
Kay:
I smiled as I read your
thoughts about it being somewhat childish. You should hear some of my
messages!
;-))) It is when we come as little children (without reservation) that
we can feel
the hands of love and the holy arms
embracing us.
Sharon:
Yes, so true.. and something I left out was the thought that was given
to me during this holy instant was "YOU are
my beloved child". Â So, I think the whole experience was about
showing me this very thing..it was like I was being taken care of like a ...
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Author: kenarronkenarron
Date: Dec 7, 2006 07:35
Dec 7, 2006, 7:25am From: osled@ lycos.com (gig)
"Pieter" wrote in message
news:45780050$0$2962$bf4948fe@news.tele2.nl...
"gig" lycos.com> schreef in bericht
news:oo2dnTBfEOIPCOrYnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
"A" b.com> wrote in message
news:cJSdnYnTN_OaFurYnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@adelphia.com...
gig wrote:
"Gene" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165457921.657195.246190@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Carrie wrote:
            I don't care what you and others
believe, I'm not going to lie and pretend and say okay your way is
right, it's what ACIM REALLY SAYS (in black and white) and no room for
any other perceptions of it (individualized curriculum, listening to
Inner Teacher, etc)
So you are right and other people wrong when you say no one is really
right or wrong?
The truth is there is no truth. ;-)
That is a lie. ...
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Author: Lee FlynnLee Flynn
Date: Dec 7, 2006 07:22
ACIM Workbook Lesson 341 ~ December 7
http://courseinmiracles.com/acourseinmiracles/workbook/acim/lesson341.htm
http://www.acimradio.net/urwork/
" Lesson 341
Feb. 1, 1971
"I can attack but my own sinlessness,
And it is only that which keeps me safe."
"Father, Your Son is holy. I am he
on whom You smile in love and tenderness
so deep and dear and still the universe
smiles back on You, and shares Your holiness.
How pure, how safe, how sacred, then, are we,
abiding in Your smile, with all Your love
bestowed upon us, living one with You,
in brotherhood and Fatherhood complete;
in sinlessness so perfect that the Lord
of Sinlessness conceives us as His Son,
a universe of Thought completing Him."
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Author: KatieKatie
Date: Dec 7, 2006 07:10
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> Who is telling THE TRUTH?
The one who has the accurate version of the story, idiot. Maybe your family could use a tape
recorder, but then again, wouldn't an actual fact be a bitch?
>
> This is what I mean, I have come to the conclusion that everyone has
> their own perception, their own version of turth (and reality) within
> the context of the ego/illusion.
Just because some people don't remember things correctly or join each other in agreement about
falshoods doesn't mean that there is no such thing as the Truth, dumb dumb.
But on this topic, your cult will have to support you, except for Gene, Gene, the
Rationalization Machine, since he is the Ultimate Authority on All Things, of Curse.
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