> I wrote:
>> Nope. I said from the start it was 90%% to 98%%. In either case, the
>> vast majority of these accusations is true.
>>> That means 9 fathers under fire for doing absolutely NOTHING.
>> And 91 mothers having their children taking away from them because
>> they dare to tell the truth.
> Oh you got to be kidding me Ilya.
> please, get a grip.
> So now you're suggesting that in every case where fathers are "accused" of
> child abuse, or violence against the mothers that ALL mothers are having
> their children taken away because in every case PAS is used as a defence and
> it is successful in the Courts. Do you even know what you're saying here?
I am saying that, if PAS is used in every case and is successful in
every case, then that's exactly what would happen.
Since Australian courts use it, there is far greater risk of this
happening than there should be.
And if the fathers' lobby has their way, this would be the exact
>>> THAT IS CRAP ..... no fathers group has EVER claimed that "most" mothers
>>> abusive to children.
> Quote it , in context, so all can see what you are referring to.
Write to the group and ask them.
>>> PLEASE get a grip on reality.
>> Obviously you don't know the people you work with.
> Man you are so full of leaps into fantasy it's becoming more than tedious.
Look. Maybe you just don't know how bad it is. Conservative societies
do a very good job of keeping abuse under wraps, so that people don't
know what is actually happening behind their facade of tradition and
This leads to two outcomes. One, people who are abused think it's only
them and are ashamed to address the crimes committed against them.
Two, the conservatives get away with their pretense and use it to
bully everyone else.
Both of these are highly wrongful and unethical outcomes, and the only
way to avert them is to expose the abuse and make its knowledge
inescapable, so that the people being abused can address the wrongs
done against them - and the people the conservatives slander and stomp
on know what they are dealing with and are not susceptible to their
>>> Final comment ..... where these matters are best dealt with is exactly as
>>> shown in the above Australian Institute of Criminology study, in the
>>> Law Courts by professionals who know what they are dealing with.
>> Many of them, regrettably, do not.
> Apply for a job then. Show them how to do it perfectly. :-)
Got an interview tomorrow... gotta get ready.