> (Dualistic) Logic pursued to the end is literally fruitless.
>
> At a certain age, children are supremely logical. They
> can drive anyone crazy with 'why' questions, each one
> requiring an new and different explanation with no end
> to it. This annoys adults when they can't get to the bottom
> of things, even as rational as they think themselves to be.
>
> Most folks reach an existential crisis at the end of puberty,
> and/or at the middle age. What does it all mean? What is it
> all for? What does anything matter? The kids ask earnestly
> for the meaning of life, but they can't get an answer. Small
> children can be told that the elephant got his trunk because
> it was pulled out long by a crocodile. That works for small
> and trusting children. Adolescents are much harder to pacify.
>
> The scientific consensus is that life is nothing but a chemical
> sideshow, insignificant in the vastness of the universe with its
> incomprehensible distances, gigantic stars, galaxies, novas, and ...

>Keynes wrote:

>> (Dualistic) Logic pursued to the end is literally fruitless.
>>
>> At a certain age, children are supremely logical. They
>> can drive anyone crazy with 'why' questions, each one

>...

> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:40:57 -0500, oxtail newvessel.com> wrote:
>

>> Keynes wrote:

>>> (Dualistic) Logic pursued to the end is literally fruitless.
>>>
>>> At a certain age, children are supremely logical. They
>>> can drive anyone crazy with 'why' questions, each one
>>> requiring an new and different explanation with no end
>>> to it. This annoys adults when they can't get to the bottom
>>> of things, even as rational as they think themselves to be.
>>>
>>> Most folks reach an existential crisis at the end of puberty,
>>> and/or at the middle age. What does it all mean? What is it
>>> all for? What does anything matter? The kids ask earnestly
>>> for the meaning of life, but they can't get an answer. Small
>>> children can be told that the elephant got his trunk because
>>> it was pulled out long by a crocodile. That works for small
>>> and trusting children. Adolescents are much harder to pacify.
>>> ...

> It doesn't come from anywhere, and it does not go to anywhere.
> This is our life. There is no other. We can take it or leave it.
> (Leave it by uselessly thinking about it).

> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:40:57 -0500, oxtail newvessel.com> wrote:

>>Keynes wrote:

>>> (Dualistic) Logic pursued to the end is literally fruitless.

>

>>> At a certain age, children are supremely logical. They
>>> can drive anyone crazy with 'why' questions, each one
>>> requiring an new and different explanation with no end
>>> to it. This annoys adults when they can't get to the bottom
>>> of things, even as rational as they think themselves to be.

>

>>> Most folks reach an existential crisis at the end of puberty,
>>> and/or at the middle age. What does it all mean? What is it
>>> all for? What does anything matter? The kids ask earnestly
>>> for the meaning of life, but they can't get an answer. Small
>>> children can be told that the elephant got his trunk because
>>> it was pulled out long by a crocodile. That works for small
>>> and trusting children. Adolescents are much harder to pacify.

>

>>> The scientific consensus is that life is nothing but a chemical ...

> Keynes:
>

>> If you're suffering over what you think is
>> my suffering, you have my sympathy.
>>
>> But not much.
>>
>> Are you ready to mind your own business yet?

>
> I think I agree that you're trying to figure it out. It's outside of
> what the mind can do.
> It's demanding an answer like 'the meaning of life is life itself'.
> But the answer is not even close. There's no answers that would get
> there.
> It can have us so convinced that it can resolve it.
> All it's good for is inventing things and making dinner.

> jfezl07@googlemail.com wrote:

>> Keynes:
>>

>>> If you're suffering over what you think is
>>> my suffering, you have my sympathy.
>>>
>>> But not much.
>>>
>>> Are you ready to mind your own business yet?

>> I think I agree that you're trying to figure it out. It's outside of
>> what the mind can do.
>> It's demanding an answer like 'the meaning of life is life itself'.
>> But the answer is not even close. There's no answers that would get
>> there.
>> It can have us so convinced that it can resolve it.
>> All it's good for is inventing things and making dinner.

>
> Buddhism in general and Chan in particular are
> all about living each moment simpliciter, even if ...

> Empty assertions.
> Who are you trying to cheat?

>
> oxtail wrote:
>

>> Empty assertions.
>> Who are you trying to cheat?

>
> It's all nonsense, dear, all empty verbalism.
> Which is why it's precious. It cannot be pinned
> down to anything, which was the woman's
> point. The glory of fluff.
>