On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:59:24 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
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>On May 12, 2:57Â pm, beelzebub yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On May 12, 1:48 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On May 12, 2:43 pm, beelzebub yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>> On May 11, 5:14 pm, DanielSan gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> beelzebub wrote:
>>>>>> On May 11, 3:07 pm, Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:54:34 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
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>>>>>>>> Splendid. Â YOU define Atheism, Mr. Atheist.
>>>>>>> The lack of belief in gods.
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>>>> [beelzebub corrected the semantic argument]
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>>>>>> The belief that there is no god, actually.
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>>>>> The lack of belief in gods, actually.
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>>>> 1. Â Do you believe in God?
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>>>> 2. Â Do you believe that there is a god, or gods?
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>>>> Answer both, without skirting the issue.
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>>> You must define God. Â Otherwise, how can the question be accurately
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>> Define it however you choose (upper or lowercase). Â It is immaterial
>> to the question--when posed to an atheist. Â The question is posed to
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>So, you're saying Atheists just don't like the word "God"? They don't
>care what it means? Just remove that word from the dictionaries, and
>Atheists will be happy?
The God of Abraham is quite well-defined. The problem for modern
believers is that none of the claims found in any of the scriptures can
be confirmed. They try to weasel out of the problem the way you are.
>Doesn't sound like much of a philosophy!
It sounds like you are playing Humpty Dumpty.
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"... There's glory for you."
"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'" Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiles contemptuously. "Of course you don't--till
I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"
"But glory doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
"it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice "whether you can make words mean so
many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be maste
--that's
all."