> Getting to the point where meditative practice is something that we
> are naturally drawn to or it integrates naturally into our daily
> routine is probably the most consistently difficult thing I've dealt
> with over the years. It's so easy to not practice. It's so simple to
> do something else.
>
> Monks often give the advice get a timer, set aside the same time on a
> regular basis, however alot of that didn't work in my case. I'm not a
> good resolution person either. I have to work things in, I had to quit
> smoking a number of times.
>
> So for this New Years I'm presenting the things that I do that are
> counter-intuitive the normal advice given by most monks. I offer this
> not in rebellion to the standard wisdom but only a presentation of the
> possibility that in developing the sitting habit as layman there may
> be some out of box thinking we might have consider engaging in. Each
> of these are things that not only are not normally reccomended but
> that also helped increase my time spent in practice. ...

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>> Getting to the point where meditative practice is something that we
>> are naturally drawn to or it integrates naturally into our daily
>> routine is probably the most consistently difficult thing I've dealt
>> with over the years. It's so easy to not practice. It's so simple to
>> do something else.

>

>> Monks often give the advice get a timer, set aside the same time on a
>> regular basis, however alot of that didn't work in my case. I'm not a
>> good resolution person either. I have to work things in, I had to quit
>> smoking a number of times.

> ...

> You, sir, are an idiot, youre describing jap zen catapraxis, not
> anamnesis and jhanic-samadhi
>
> pathetic talk about physical posture.
>
> Yet another ape who thinks liberations road is paved with body
> postures and "being still"
>
> you are a mental midget.

> Getting to the point where meditative practice is something that we
> are naturally drawn to or it integrates naturally into our daily
> routine is probably the most consistently difficult thing I've...

> You, sir, are an idiot, youre describing jap zen catapraxis, not
> anamnesis and jhanic-samadhi
>
> pathetic talk about physical posture.
>
> Yet another ape who thinks liberations road is paved with body
> postures and "being still"
>
> you are a mental midget.

> Awaken21 wrote:

>> Getting to the point where meditative practice is something that we
>> are naturally drawn to or it integrates naturally into our daily
>> routine is probably the most consistently difficult thing I've dealt
>> with over the years. It's so easy to not practice. It's so simple to
>> do something else.

>

>> Monks often give the advice get a timer, set aside the same time on a
>> regular basis, however alot of that didn't work in my case. I'm not a
>> good resolution person either. I have to work things in, I had to quit
>> smoking a number of times.

>

>> So for this New Years  I'm presenting the things that I do that are
>> counter-intuitive the normal advice given by most monks. I offer this
>> not in rebellion to the standard wisdom but only a presentation of the
>> possibility that in developing the sitting habit as layman there may
>> be some out of box thinking we might have consider engaging in. Each
>> of these are things that not only are not normally reccomended but
>> that also helped increase my time spent in practice. ...

> On Jan 2, 10:54 pm, Robert Epstein verizon.net> wrote:
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>>Awaken21 wrote:
>>

>>>Getting to the point where meditative practice is something that we
>>>are naturally drawn to or it integrates...

> "Awaken21" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I find walking meditation is useful to still the mind. Getting older, I
> am working on a rocking chair meditation. Whatever it is that disturbs my
> mind and makes me feel I should get up and move, I focus on it until
> it floats away like a cloud. :o)