John D Salt wrote: But now, we have the forensic data on Aristocratic skeletons showing high lead levels. Which turns out came mostly from "garum", I rather like the idea of two giant empires declining and falling because of the malign influence of ketchup. Can anyone find a way of blaming the pernicious habit of putting vinegar on chips for the decline of the British ...

ibshambat@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes democracies become idiocracies. That's not true of all democracies - we are not seeing the same thing happen in European Union, and we did not see the same in America under Clinton or Theodore Roosevelt or Lincoln or a few others. I do not see this as a feature of the political system, but rather of people's values. There is a strong anti-...

Day Brown wrote: There is the question of pay now, or pay later. Machiavelli preferred monarchy because, like a family business, the leadership gave more consideration to the later generations that'd inherit the business. Yes, but not to the people. They cared about their own children, not children of others in the country or anywhere else. The masses only give lip service to ...

Ilya the Bat wrote: Transformations are good when they lead to improved state of affairs. We do not see that here. There is the question of pay now, or pay later. Machiavelli preferred monarchy because, like a family business, the leadership gave more consideration to the later generations that'd inherit the business. The masses only give lip service to this, as we see with the ...

ZerkonX wrote: On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:59:03 -0700, Ilya the Bat wrote: Napoleon conquered a comparable section of Europe as did Hitler without committing anywhere close to Hitler’s level of crimes against mankind. It is time. Hitler is no longer the benchmark for destruction nor for crimes against humankind nor is Napoleon the superlative for power gone mad. ...

Ribbet!

oTTo <derottobahn@yahoo.com> wrote: Ribbet! We've upped our speeed limit, now UP YOURS! --oTTo-- Dave "thanks for checking in; it's your turn on the operating table next month, you know" DeLaney -- \/David DeLaney posting from dbd@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes...

> The ideals behind American Revolution went back to Europe; and Europe adopted America’s best traits, while America adopted many of Europe’s ugliest ones. Europeans stole _our_ freedom! Bret Cahill

No cluons were harmed when ZerkonX wrote: Hitler is no longer the benchmark for destruction nor for crimes against humankind nor is Napoleon the superlative for power gone mad. Dammit, you promised not to out me until NEXT year. The Mad Scientists Guild will be receiving my formal complaint. Mark Edwards

On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:59:03 -0700, Ilya the Bat wrote: Napoleon conquered a comparable section of Europe as did Hitler without committing anywhere close to Hitler’s level of crimes against mankind. It is time. Hitler is no longer the benchmark for destruction nor for crimes against humankind nor is Napoleon the superlative for power gone mad.