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Author: ancientbuddhismancientbuddhism
Date: Feb 29, 2008 19:17
The Buddhist term Anatman (Sanskrit), or Anatta (Pali) is an adjective
in sutra used to refer to the nature of phenomena as being devoid of
the Soul, that being the ontological and subjective Self (atman)
which is the "light (dipam), and only refuge" [DN 2.100]. Of the 662
occurrences of the term Anatta in the Nikayas, its usage is restricted
to referring to 22 nouns (forms, feelings, perception, experiences,
consciousness, the eye, eye-consciousness, desires, mentation, mental
formations, ear, nose, tongue, body, lusts, things unreal, etc.), all
phenomenal, as being Selfless (anatta). Contrary to countless many
popular (=profane, or = consensus, from which the truth can 'never be
gathered') books (as Buddhologist C.A.F. Davids has deemed them
'miserable little books') written outside the scope of Buddhist
doctrine, there is no "Doctrine of anatta/anatman" mentioned anywhere
in the sutras, rather anatta is used only to refer to impermanent
things/phenomena as other than the Soul, to be anatta, or Self-less
(an-atta).
Specifically in sutra, anatta is used to describe the temporal
and unreal (metaphysically so) nature of any and all composite,
consubstantial, phenomenal, and temporal things, from the macrocosmic,
to ...
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Date: Feb 29, 2008 03:38
RaaN wrote:
> It wasn't meant to be an exclusive disjunction.
> Anyway its not correct to say I am unborn.
> It is definitively correct to say nothing is unborn.
> No eternal awareness in blissful compassion.
> Accept the total lack of absolutes and see.
It is not possible to see the total lack of absolutes.
Absolutes are in thought, not in reality, and their
absence is also a fortiori in thought, not in reality.
In raw sensation there is neither the absolutes nor
their absence. That is the space of freedom, the
space cleared for freedom.
Tang Huyen
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Author: NoVA101NoVA101
Date: Feb 28, 2008 22:13
Some people can see the problem this presents right away. Some people
can't even see that there is a problem. I see the problem, but I can't
see any resolution. I am interested in your feedback...
You have two thoughts in conflict, how do you pick a winner?
You have thought A.
You have thought B.
You choose one of them.
Who or what is the "you" that just chose?
EXAMPLE: "I made myself get up early and exercise this morning". This
implies A: I wanted to sleep, B: I wanted to get in shape. Therefore
"I" "chose" thought B.
Can you see the problem?
Do you know the solution??
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Author: Monkey MindMonkey Mind
Date: Feb 27, 2008 15:02
Chapter 13 of "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" by Chögyam
Trungpa.
Summary:
Cutting through our concepts with the sword of prajna, we discern
shunyata: non-being, void, emptiness, the absence of any duality.
The Heart Sutra is the best-known text on this subject. In it, the
Buddha is portrayed as approving of Avalokiteshvara's
discourse. Shariputra with his analytic approach is the receiver of
the teaching.
"O Shariputra, form is emptiness, emptiness is form. Form is not
distinct from emptiness, nor yet is emptiness distinct from form."
Form is the "like this" quality preceding our conceptualization.
So then, what is form empty of? It's empty of our opinions and
views. Form is empty when we are present without taking a position on
it.
Emptiness is also form. When we see things as empty, we form a
view...
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Author: ibshambatibshambat
Date: Feb 27, 2008 03:04
Everybody thinks that they know what is justice, but what they
conceive of as justice is different from place to place. The just-
world hypothesis of different people in different places and times
conceive of completely different kinds of justice. And it is by flux
between people and places that any meaningful concept of what is
justice can be attained.
In Muslim and rural Indian cultures, it is seen as justice that man
bludgeon the woman into being his dog and kill her if she disobeys in
the slightest. In American feminist culture, it is seen as justice...
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Author:
Date: Feb 26, 2008 15:38
"^@%%>---*=#" wrote:
> "L. Raymond"
>
>> It doesn't really matter who started it. The
>> woman I'm addressing keeps complaining
>> about atheists not taking her seriously. If
>> that bothers her, she simply needs to not
>> post in the atheist newsgroup. That won't
>> stop the thread, but it will protect her from
>> all the evil non-believers who seem to
>> bother her so much.
>
> very zennish
Indeed, and elementary, too, but
some people can't do it, even after
years and decades of familiarity
with Chan/Zen.
Tang Huyen
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Author:
Date: Feb 26, 2008 03:42
"Allen L. Barker" wrote:
> OK, Gautama, one more time. If you don't tell
> us *right now* exactly what you realized under the
> Bodhi tree, we'll waterboard you again! Your
> Sakya clan can't help you now, Siddhartha!
>
> ...
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Author:
Date: Feb 25, 2008 04:24
Lifeform wrote:
> I suggest that one should not be critical of hypocrisy to the detrement of
> the idea itself. If one is sincere in their direction but unable to achieve
> the perceived goal, others should not be quick to judge the idea itself.
>
> If one takes a certain a attitude or action (the idea) to be in accordance
> with a more harmonious life, then that attitude or action should be given
> thought-energy in order that its effectiveness or limits can be determined.
> The results should not be tallied as arguments against the idea as the idea
> may simply have not had sufficient _____ to overcome obstacles.
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Author: ibshambatibshambat
Date: Feb 24, 2008 20:09
On Parting
Teasing and tempting and playing
We loved like children, us both
But somebody, hiding a smile,
Set up the ungentle nets -
And here we are at the harbor,
Not seeing the wished-for abodes,
But knowing that I will be yours
In the heart, without words, until death.
You told me of all things - so early!
I guessed them so late! In our hearts
A wound is eternal, a silent
Question exists in our eyes,
The desert on earth is so endless,
The heaven, so high, has no stars,
Revealed is the tender secret,
And frost rules for centuries.
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Author: WompomWompom
Date: Feb 24, 2008 05:06
Wisdom from the mouth of Tang:
"If you are a sorry fuckup, accept
yourself just that way, namely as a sorry
fuckup, and you will be amazed at how
better you'll feel toward yourself"
:-)
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