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  "I don't know where my soul is" --There are four errors in this statement, and one axis of truth         


Author: ancientbuddhism
Date: Dec 23, 2007 21:36

"I don't know where my soul is"

There are four errors in this statement, and one axis of truth upon
which all four rotate round

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"Where is my soul" is the most common question in reply by the
ignorant and profane when discussing metaphysics, Buddhism, or other
forms of Monism; being the abbreviated version of "I don't know...
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  will the ego bound blow fish named Ancient idiot please stop spamming ?         


Author: thubtenpematenzin
Date: Dec 23, 2007 20:57

Ancient Idiot please stop spamming
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  NORBU lodges his gonads in the meat-grinder of inconsistent crypto-nihilistic fallacious affirming Nihilism         


Author: ancientbuddhism
Date: Dec 23, 2007 16:15

Kenny, he meant that the only guy who believes your lollipop sundae
easter bunny version of the dhamma is you... You have a cult of one.
NORBU
****************************
Aint that cute norbu, when you have no doctrinal position to make your
point, you use hyperbole!!!

FL Woodward, IB Horner, CAF Davids, George Grimm, S. Radhakrishnan, J.
Perez-Ramon, G.C. Pande, I.B. Horner, Dr. A.K. Coomaraswamy, Julius
Evola, Rene Guenon, Nikhilananda, Chandradhar Sharma, Dr. Nakamura and
many others; all of whom denied to a greater or lesser degree the
image and teachings of modern Buddhism as being contrary to the
original article.

this must be the "cult of one"....... LOL.

Nobody who has, without the spectre of sectarianism, examined the
Suttas in the Pali, will find your and rahulas soul-denying pathetic
demonic nihilism (nastika).
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  Kerouac Christmas         


Author: Evelyn Ruut
Date: Dec 23, 2007 16:04

"Tonight," I thought, "I sleep tight and long and pray under the stars for
the Lord to bring me to Buddhahood after my Buddhawork is done, amen." And
as it was Christmas, I added "Lord bless you all and merry tender Christmas
on all your rooftops and I hope angels squat there the night of the big real
star, amen." And then I thought later, lying on my bag smoking, "Everything
is possible. I am God, I am Buddha, I am imperfect Ray Smith, all at the
same time, I am empty space, I am all things. I have all the time in the
world from life to life to do what is to do, to do what is to be done, to do
the timeless doing, infinitely perfect within, why cry, why worry, perfect
like the mind essence... ..I was started on my new life...a regular Don
Quixote of tenderness. In the morning I felt...
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  NORBU's pathetic position that "The Buddha negated any negator"...my toddler is trying to grow up.         


Author: ancientbuddhism
Date: Dec 23, 2007 16:01

The Buddha negated any negator-- Norbu
*****************
Is that so? tell me where there is such a passage..........LOL. Poor
demonic little nasktika (nihilist)

MN 1.140 Even though I proclaim things thusly, followers, and I point
out things thusly, there are recluses and Brahmins who falsely,
vainly, and slanderously proclaim of me: "The recluse Gotama is an
anti-foundationalist (venayika, vi+neti. A nihilist) who preaches the
anihilation (ucchedavada) of an existing being (satta) and the
oblivion (vibhava) of an existing being."

next youll humour me with talk about the watch which winds itself.
Rahula, as ignorant as he is, has twice your intellect, son.

You talk about the "all",as if this implies totality. Sabba is the 5
khandhas in sutta and atthakatha, son.

Tattha sabbe dhamma'ti pañcakkhandha' eva adhippeta'
Dhammapada Att. 3.407 "'Sabbe dharmas are the five aggregates in
meaning"

You are refuted, my son.
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  Fra Angelico's Chistmas Letter         


Author: norbu.tragri
Date: Dec 23, 2007 14:19

I salute you. I am your friend, and my love for you goes deep.

There is nothing I can give you which you have not already, but there
is much, very much, which though I cannot give it, you can take.

No heaven can come to us unless our hearts find rest in today.

Take heaven.

No peace lies in the future which is not hidden in this precious
little instant.

Take peace.

The gloom of the world is but a shadow. Behind it, yet within our
reach is joy. There is radiance and courage in the darkness could we
but see; and to see, we have only to look.

Life is so generous a giver, but we, judging its gifts by their
coverings, cast them away as ugly or heavy or hard. Remove the
covering, and you will find beneath it a living splendor, woven of
love, and wisdom, and power. Welcome it, greet it, and you touch the
angel's hand that brings it.

Everything we call a trial, a sorrow, a duty, believe me, that angel's
hand is there, the gift is there, and the wonder of an overshadowing
Presence.
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  Even ole' RAHULA, my son, cannot negate the Negator. "there is no atman" says Rahula...says who!?         


Author: ancientbuddhism
Date: Dec 23, 2007 02:31

"there is no atman, show me the sutta"-----Rahula.
*****************

LOL.. you are cute , son.......I consider your my pet, like a kitten
trying to bite its owner but lacking teeth (wisdom) to penetrate the
skin.

Might i remind you son, that the Subject preceeds the object of
negation, your attempt USE a Self to deny another self is an unending
loop. Nobody can negate the Negator.

of all this which buddhism CORNERSTONE motto is "none of these are
my soul" is implied what boy?

"Whenever we deny something unreal, is it in reference to something
real"[Br. Sutra III.2.22]

"It cannot happen that anyone may negate the Negator who claims of the
all (sabba) 'this is not me, this is not who I am, this is not my
Soul' (nesohamasmi na meso atta')."

ALL negation is affirmation son, One only negates in order to
indirrectly POSIT (engender gnosis/wisdom/panna) X

did you forget that boy?
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  Rahulas' contradictions: A: "there is no atman"...>>B: "to hold that there is no atman is heresy"---A doesnt match B         


Author: ancientbuddhism
Date: Dec 23, 2007 02:19

The atman itself does not exist. Show me the sutta.
Regards,
> Rahula

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thats heresy son, pali for "there is no soul" is NATTHATTA', not
anatta/anatman. Even YOU know anatta is an adjective

Gotama wasted 45 years saying "this is not atman, nor that, nor
that.........."

when ALL HE HAD TO do was say "bhikkhu, natthatta!" (followers, there
is no Atman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

no such passage exists.................. LOL

all 662 occurances of anatta is sutta are the same ABCDEF are NOT
ATMAN

na me so atta (these are NOT my soul) = anatta

was only 48 hours ago you said............"to hold there is no atman
is also a heresy"------RAHULA

lets compare your OWN BS words
A: "to hold there is no atman is also a heresy"------RAHULA
B: "The atman itself does not exist. Show me the sutta."------RAHULA
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  Rahulas cheese slips off his cracker. Not since a visit to a Zen center have I seen such self-contradictory BS from one person         


Author: ancientbuddhism
Date: Dec 23, 2007 02:08

"he who sees (potential) purity in ANY of the 5khandhas is a fool, is
>> not one of us"- Khandhavagga SN3-----Gotama Buddha
>
> I did not see purity in khandhas, but I see purity in the mind where
> clinging to khandha is relinquished.
>
> Regards,
> Rahula
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You miserable inconsistent demonic sack-O-shit.........you yourself
said:::::::

""""""the citta is not pre-khandhic.........RAHULA""""""""...

.......i.e. that the citta is a process/modality of one
khandhas..........!!!

You really are that goddamn dumb arent you son?

you talk about "purity in the citta" but you not 2 days ago you
said ::::""""""""""citta is not a khandha, i never said it was-------
RAHULA""""""""""""
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  Rahula 100%% proven a squirming liar and ignorant goon of Buddhism. Absolutely hillarious outright refutation of his BS         


Author: ancientbuddhism
Date: Dec 23, 2007 01:53

Nowhere does it say Citta = Tathagatahood.
Regards,
Rahula
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is that so boy?..........LOL

pubbeva tath± citta 1/2 bh±vita 1/2 hoti ya 1/2 ta 1/2 tathatt±ya
upanet²"ti.
MN 1.301 When the mind is made to become (in wisdom), one gains
Suchness (Tat, Thatness, ie Brahman) of Soul. (TATHATTA')

Even the goddamn theravada translations and commentary of TATHATTA'
is that this is = Tathagata......pathetic bastard!!!!!!!

the Tathagata is none other than the Buddha..........you deny this
asshole?.......course you dont.

Buddhahood = pure CITTA

"The purification of ones CITTA this is the Doctrine of the
Buddha" [DN 2.49]

"How is it that one is called a 'Buddha'?...gnosis that the CITTA is
purified (visuddham)...such is how one is deemed a 'Buddha'." [MN 2.144]

youre utterly refuted you squirming little crypto-Nihilist.
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