> now & zen wrote:
>

>> "Keynes" earthlinkspam.net> wrote in message
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>>>On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:21:14 GMT, "now & zen" netzero.com>

>>
>> wrote:
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>>>>"Monique Y. Mudama" bounceswoosh.org> wrote in message
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>>>>>On 2006-12-06, now & zen penned:
>>>>>

>>>>>>"Robert Epstein" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>well I'm doing that however I can. in the meantime you keep seeing ...

>
> "stumper" newvessel.com> wrote in message
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>> P.K. Harvey wrote:

>>> stumper wrote:
>>>

>>>> Do you have to be mindful to be aware?

>>>
>>> Have to...or just do so freely by choice? Nah. I'm not going there.
>>>
>>> Yeah. No distinction between the two. Utterly interdependent and
>>> mutually arising. No awareness without mindfulness, no mindfulness
>>> without awareness. Like I said, I'm not sure what you think the
>>> difference is between the two. Is practice different from

>>>
>>> P.K.
>>> ...

> Tang Huyen wrote:
>

>>
>> Hollywood Lee wrote:
>>

>>> Noah Sombrero:
>>>

>>>> Tang Huyen:
>>>>

>>>>> Please be as severe to me as you can. Mere words on
>>>>> the screen won't hurt me but only teach...

> Déjà_Fu wrote:
>

>> brian mitchell wrote:

>

>>> . . . the most fundamental claim
>>> of scientistiticalism is untestable, so it rests on a turtle like
>>> everything else.

>

>> :) I didn't even know we had a "fundamental claim"!

>
> I've made one on your behalf, which is: that the laws of physics operate
> whether or not they are observed to do so. Thus, even when the last
> observing consciousness blinks out, the remaining universe rolls sweetly
> along.

> When I used to care about this sort of stuff, at the emotional level I
> rooted for panpsychism as the General Theory of Everything Physical and
> Mental - http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/panpsychism/

> Then I started baking mango pies.

> P.K. Harvey wrote:

>> stumper wrote:
>>

>>> Do you have to be mindful to be aware?

>>
>> Have to...or just do so freely by choice? Nah. I'm not going there.
>>
>> Yeah. No distinction between the two. Utterly interdependent and
>> mutually arising. No awareness without mindfulness, no mindfulness
>> without awareness. Like I said, I'm not sure what you think the
>> difference is between the two. Is practice different from enlightenment?
>>
>> P.K.
>>

>
> Can you be mindful without intending to do so?

>
>
> Wow. I guess I am just a naughty buddhist girl, but I was that way
> when I wasn't buddhist too.... LOL!

> There are plenty of women who just want to -- you know- too, but we
> want it WITH the intimacy thing, not without it. Why have
> impersonal stupid sex with someone who isn't worth talking with
> afterwards? If you are gonna get all sweaty, and have wild hot
> monkey sex, it is infinitely better with someone who knows you,
> knows the right moves, and whom you really like as a human being,
> and who really likes you as a human being. Not to even mention
> someone with whom you have committments, shared possessions, shared
> money, and a shared past and future with, engendering trust and
> openness. Ad a little love and you have the closest thing to bliss
> in this world.

>
> I've warned my daughters that men are scum. They didn't believe me.
> (At first.)

> I spend a lot of time disgusting my wife who will do it but never
> speak of it. She has her own language of sex and anatomy because
> the common words just aren't nice. (A good and true catholic girl.)

> P.K. Harvey wrote:

>> "stumper" newvessel.com> wrote in message
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>>> P.K. Harvey wrote:

>>>> "Robert Epstein" yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:o17fh.399$yZ4.381@trnddc05...

>>>>> stumper wrote:
>>>>>

>>>>>> P.K. Harvey wrote:
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "stumper" newvessel.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> P.K. Harvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "stumper" newvessel.com> wrote in message
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