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Moojan Momen creates black list of former Baha'is         


Author: diamondsouled
Date: Nov 25, 2007 21:43

Moojan Momen has created a black list of twelve former Baha'is that he
states are very similar to members of covenant-breaker groups:

"Although these apostate groups and the very similar 'covenant-
breaker' groups, as they are known by core Baha'is, are often referred
to as sects or splinter groups of the Baha'i Faith, this
characterisation is in a sense incorrect. These groups are not
developing their own distinctive beliefs and practices. They exist
only to attack the main Baha'i community. In Scheler's terms, they are
not living in their new faith community, but are engaged only in a
series of acts against their former community. Their new community
exists only as a 'point of reference' from which to attack the former
community."

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/0048721X

This black balling is intended to create a situation in which it will
be justified by Baha'is to shun these former Baha'is because they are,
according to Moojan, similar to covenant breakers. Moojan should be
ashamed of himself; the fact that he attempts to pass off this poison
as a scholarly paper clearly shows he has no integrity as a scholar,
Baha'i or otherwise.
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Re: Moojan Momen creates black list of former Baha'is         


Author: Death to Haifan Bahaism
Date: Nov 25, 2007 22:06

On Nov 26, 3:43 pm, diamondsouled northwestel.net> wrote:
> Moojan Momen has created a black list of twelve former Baha'is that he
> states are very similar to members of covenant-breaker groups:

I believe he has included me on that list. Like the addage goes, no
publicity is like bad publicity!
>Moojan should be
> ashamed of himself; the fact that he attempts to pass off this poison
> as a scholarly paper clearly shows he has no integrity as a scholar,
> Baha'i or otherwise.

Denis Maceoin pointed that out almost 30 years ago.
> He is motivated by the struggle against the
> old belief and lives only for its negation. The apostate does not
> affirm his new convictions for their own sake, he is engaged in a
> continuous chain of acts of revenge against his own spiritual past.

This typology can be applied to Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nari just as well.
Mollah Momen should've realized how these typologies can become double
edged swords. He will be made to EAT THEM!

W
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Re: Moojan Momen creates black list of former Baha'is         


Author: AHWA
Date: Nov 25, 2007 22:59

Here is where Mollah Momen mentions me by name on p. 197 (FYI I am
'BB).

"Another apostate, 'BB', was born into an Iranian Baha'i family
resident in Australia and had
a marginal career on Talisman before resigning membership of the
Baha'i community in 1996. He
declared that...
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Author: AHWA
Date: Nov 25, 2007 23:02

Here is what this imbecile says of Fred on p. 198:

"The second of these five apostates who have maintained some sort of
Baha'i identity is Frederick
Glaysher, an American, who was a Baha'i for some twenty-five years,
writing for Baha'i
magazines and teaching...
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Author: AHWA
Date: Nov 26, 2007 00:51

Mollah Momen ibn al-Himar on Umm Yasmin Maryam R. Woodlock, p. 200,

"Deciding who should or should not be classified as an apostate is, of
course, subjective, and
there are a number of other individuals that some may have added to
the list. One Australian
woman, 'EE',...
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Author: AHWA
Date: Nov 26, 2007 04:52

p.204

"These ongoing apostate attacks on the Baha'i Faith have had an effect
on the way that the
Baha'i Faith is viewed by outsiders. They have appeared in a textbook
on the Baha'i Faith by
Margit Warburg, who is professor of the sociology of religion in
Copenhagen (see Warburg,
2003, pp. 66e8). Some neutral websites, such as www.religioustolerance.org,
which is run by
the Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance, have adopted the
apostate positions on many
issues."

In other words, the various public opposition over the past decade has
been having a decisive effect in unveiling Haifan Bahaism for the evil
cult that it is worldwide. The reputation and propaganda of this
nefarious organization has been cut to size. Outsiders are clueing
into the fact that the Haifan Bahaim are pathological and deliberate
liars while aggressively territorial. The growth of this sinister
mafia and cosa nostra has been brought to nil!
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Re: Moojan Momen creates black list of former Baha'is         


Author: Asparagus
Date: Nov 26, 2007 05:13

"AHWA" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4a1e15f0-6102-4ba2-9d78-3c8ef35519e1@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Now as far as the word "apostate" (murtad) is concerned: perhaps
> Mollah Momen ibn al-Himar is unaware that throughout the Muslim world
> this is precisely the classification and legal epithet that he and
> every last member of his cult bear. That said, with Mollah Momen
> casting his fatwas, allow me to issue a public, official and
> unequivocal TAKFIR upon ibn al-Himar (son of a donkey, i.e. Moojan
> Momen) and declare him a rank "infidel" ("kafir"), an incorrigible
> heretic ("mulhid") who is among the corrupters of the earth (mufsid
> fi'l-ard) and a misled associator (mushrik) deserving that which he
> deserves of the Divine Justice ('adl) which shall meet with...
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Author: AHWA
Date: Nov 26, 2007 15:30

On Nov 26, 11:13 pm, "Asparagus" spimspam.com> wrote:
> may the hairs on your buttocks turn into sticks and thrash the arse off you

May you burn in hell along with the rest of your co-cultists.

W
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Re: Moojan Momen creates black list of former Baha'is         


Author: Asparagus
Date: Nov 26, 2007 15:57

"AHWA" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b2e0f70b-457e-4109-bf7a-8165e1bac230@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 26, 11:13 pm, "Asparagus" spimspam.com> wrote:
>
>> may the hairs on your buttocks turn into sticks and thrash the arse off
>> you
>
> May you burn in hell along with the rest of your co-cultists.

not for the first time nor likely the last you have lost the plot completely

hardly surprising

how's your girl friend stephanie haven't see her around in a long time

ps loved the piece about you in ms moojan momen's article

about the only accurate bit in it
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Re: Moojan Momen creates black list of former Baha'is         


Author: Hasley9
Date: Nov 26, 2007 16:13

On Nov 25, 11:43 pm, diamondsouled northwestel.net> wrote:
> Moojan Momen has created ablacklistof twelve former Baha'is that he
> states are very similar to members of covenant-breaker groups:
> Thisblackballing is intended to create a situation in which it will
> be justified by Baha'is to shun these former Baha'is because they are,
> according to Moojan, similar to covenant breakers.

LOL. Newsflash! Most Baha'is don't read academic journals. If this
article is intended to encourage Baha'is shun these people he has
published it in the wrong venue. In fact, what he wrote is a
legitimate...
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