On Jan 31, 10:38 pm, "Shahriar" wrote:

If the Bahaim have a problem with keeping their pro-Zionist/pro-
AmeriKKKan lackey mouths shut and their activities curtailed in an
Islamic country like Iran, they should simply get out. Simple as that...

Because a man claimes "I am a Prophet" does it mean he is, just
because he claims it?

Cool off a bit (Shar-iar)!
First you did not answer my question if they denied the charge.
I thought they were sentenced to 3 years in jail and the rest were
freed. Are you saying some were executed?
Now, you Bahais are told to observe the law of the place you live in.
The law in Iran as we speak now is that Bahais are not allowed to
proselytize. It is not fair but it is the law. So is there any
guideline as to which ones you obey and which ones you don't.
Bear in mind that equally Muslims find many of the IR law's unfair but
they get also punished for not observing them.
Now as for your "Of course you do Steve", you need to ask more
questions than you apply your tongue. If you asked me, I would have
told you as I did on many occasions before that People of Bayan (which
includes me) do not...

Additionally, the Orthodox Bahá'í side of the scales has the weight
of 36
years full of both official writings of the first of our Guardians,
specifically
teaching the fact of the continuing Guardianship of the Bahá'í Faith,
and also
Pilgrims' notes such as the following:

"I had to send a very abrupt cable to the friends in Bombay
to prevent them from celebrating my birthday. If this starts now
there will be no end to it. The first Guardian's birthday, the first
Guardian's death, the tenth Guardian's accession. They would have 400
Guardian's celebrations in 365 days."

On Jan 31, 6:00 am, JustBay...@gmail.com wrote:

How would you know Baha'i practices around the world? Have you read
any reports of women receiving services from the Tahirih Justice
Centere that they were pressured into becoming Baha'i? How about those
women who go for training to the Indore Institute? Come on, cough up
your evidence for this assertion.

Fred, how about attempting to pen a scholarly response to Momen, for you
seems to believe have all the facts and follow a rightful logical path. I
would be very disappointed if the respected academic journal reject your
paper based on not being a qualified submitter. I don't think they
discriminate against expired ABDs, but they may reject your paper as
baseless fiction, which opens the door for offering your stories to comic
periodicals.

"Baha'i Censorship - See Website" SeeWebsite.com> wrote in
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Fairly easy to leave IRI for countries like Turkey and Pakistan. The
Mullahs dont understand sense.
Wouldnt advise any more west than Turkey, however. They dont like
Iranians very much in places like Germany, even Iranian Bahais
(personal experience)

On Jan 31, 9:53 am, GAZAMAT gmail.com> wrote:

"Few things have done more harm than the belief on the part of individuals or groups (or tribes or states or nations or churches)
that he or she or they are in sole possession of the truth: especially about how to live, what to be & do-& that those who differ
from them are not merely mistaken, but wicked or mad: & need restraining or suppressing. It is a terrible and dangerous arrogance to
believe that you alone are right: have a magical eye which sees the truth: & that others cannot be right if they disagree. ...the
first people totalitarians destroy or silence are men of ideas & free minds." --Isaiah Berlin

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The Baha'i Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/

"Baha'i Censorship - See Website" SeeWebsite.com> wrote in message
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A review of the website material shows no "slanderous vilification" by
Momen - Fred Glaysher, however, is shown to be a regular and
enthusiastic practitioner.

Viv.

Hasl wrote:

"My understanding is that the House currently has no president or any
other officers."

Well, this is quite natural, what do you expect from a Headless and
illegitimate body who was created by the former Hands who initially
violated the Will and Testament of Abdu'l Baha?

She wrote:

"I think they have a rotating chair."

And this is exactly against the provisions of the Will and Testament,
which says:

"By this body all the difficult problems are to be resolved and the
GUARDIAN OF THE CAUSE OF GOD IS ITS SACRED HEAD AND THE DISTINGUISHED
MEMBER FOR THE LIFE OF THAT BODY. Should he not attend in person its
deliberations, he must appoint one to represent him. Should any of the
members commit a sin, injurious to the common weal, the Guardian of
the Cause of God hath at his own discretion the right to expel him,
whereupon the people must elect another one in his stead."

Also she wrote: