Hasl wrote:

"In the context of the Seven Valleys however, it appears to refer to
God, for Shoghi Effendi states:
:"The word "Guardian" in the Seven Valleys has no connection with
the
Baha'i Guardianship."
:(Shoghi Effendi, The Unfolding Destiny of the British Baha'i
Community, p. 453)

Any unfaithful person who contends with the Guardian of the Cause of
God and uses the logic of not using logic may come to a wired
conclusion similar to what Hasl did. Hasl allows herself to interpret
the word of Baha'u'llah that the "Guardian of the Cause" in Seven
Valleys does not mean "Guardian of the Cause" and it means God. Where
does the quotation she provided from a letter to an individual suggest
such a thing? It is not known what has been the question since this
is an answer to a specific question and it does not explain the
meaning of the "Guardian of the Cause" in the Seven Valleys.

The chapter of the sans-Guardian publication The Bahá'í World 1995-96
starting on page 241
contains a statement issued on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of
the United Nations by the Bahá'í International Community
association.

As I was reading some of the proposals made to the United Nations by
that sans-Guardian association, addressing the shortcomings of the
United Nations, it was evident to me that the
proposals made displayed considerable wisdom and were eloquently
presented. I am not a Guardian of the Bahá'í Faith, however, so I was
unable to discern whether or not there was anything defective or
missing in those proposed measures articulated by the sans-Guardian
Bahá'í organization.

Neither was I able to make any comment concerning the timing of any or
all of those proposals, because such timing is the prerogative of a
Guardian of the Bahá'í Faith, in the same manner that Shoghi Effendi
chose the time for the establishment of the embryonic Universal House
of Justice by means of his January 9th, 1951 Proclamation to "all
National Assemblies of East and West".

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In "the case of slanderous vilification" (the attempted theft of good
name or wanton attack on character) your response is well documented
Kohli.

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universal brotherhood." - Abdu'l-Baha

For over three years now since 2004, the Reform Bahai Faith has
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essentially the same spiritual upheavals as that of Ruth White,
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based on the fraudulent will and testament of Abdu'l-Baha throughout
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the historical record of events for perceptive minds and souls.

Despite all fanatical, fundamentalist attempts to suppress all memory
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it out, to coerce and slander, malign and expell, shun and besmirch the
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The Prisoner of Akka, Baha'u'llah, lived much of His life deprived of
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To His Great Ends, the Reform Bahai Faith invites all souls to a Convocation
of celebration, brotherhood, and Reform, during Ridvan, 2006.

The Reform Bahai Faith, calling to mind the sufferings and imprisonment of
the Bab, Baha'u'llah, and Abdu'l-Baha, under the brutal oppression of
tyrannical regimes, bent upon silencing and destroying their testimony of
God's New Day, resolves

1. To witness the truth of the deviation of the organized, incorporated
Baha'i Faith from the Path, and its imposition of manifest corruptions and
innovations, over many lamentable decades, that have wrought ever-increasing
alienation, fear, censorship, coercion, misrepresentation, distortion, and
damage, all the stratagems of despots and dictators, political and
religious, upon individual Bahais, their families, and the community of
believers.

2. To seek afresh His Will, as at the dawn of a New Day, whereby the
earth is born anew and man stands transparent before God's manifestation of
His Will.

It is amazing how those who were, or are involved, with the violation
of the Covenant by their aggression and hostility against the second
and third Guardians of the Cause of God have resorted to very obvious
lies in their writings in order to justify their wrongdoings.

Dream Lover wrote:

"The whole idea of a court was abandoned because Israel had changed
by 1957, there would be no religious courts as it appeared their would
be in 1951"

This is an obvious lie; even today Jews, Christians and Muslims In
Israel have their own religious courts.

Hasl confirmed the above lie in stating that:

"As the Hands had written in 1959:
"We wish to assure the believers that every effort will be made to
establish a Baha'i Court in the Holy Land prior to the date set for
this election. We should however bear in mind that the Guardian
himself clearly indicated this goal, due to the strong trend towards
the secularization of Religious Courts in this part of the world,
might not be achieved." (Ministry of the Custodians, pp. 168-69)

Shoghi Effendi, the first Guardian of the Bahá'í Faith wrote the
following concerning the Will and Testament of 'Abdu'l-Bahá:

"The Will and Testament, on the other hand, may be regarded as the
offspring resulting from the mystic intercourse between Him
[Bahá'u'lláh] Who had generated the forces of a God-given Faith, and
the one ['Abdu'l-Bahá] Who had been made its sole Interpreter and was
recognized as its perfect Exemplar...This Instrument can, if we would
correctly appraise it, no more be divorced from the One [Bahá'u'lláh]
Who provided the motivating impulse for its creation than from Him
['Abdu'l-Bahá] Who directly conceived it."

It is incomprehensible that women and men who claim to be Bahá'ís are
able to believe that the spiritual "Child" of Bahá'u'lláh and 'Abdu'l-
Bahá could be defective, containing erroneous and flawed commands...