Even those of us who don't much like Dermod don't say nasty things
about his dear autistic child. Dermod's devotion to that child is his
highest quality.

Doesn't Hazin mean pathetic in Arabic?

from the True Seeker blog
http://www.trueseeker.typepad.com/index.html

This is an update on the court case. As you may know, the sans-
Guardian National Spiritual Assembly of the Baha'is for the United
States has filed a contempt motion against the Orthodox Baha'i Faith
(and also a Baha'i denomination that follows Neal Chase as the
Guardian). The motion seeks to enforce a Judgment against the OBF that
had been entered in 1966 against the NSA of Charles Mason Remey's
organization. That Judgment prohibits the use of the word "Baha'i" and
the Greatest Name symbols, among other things, stating that such use
infringes upon the NSA's trademark.

After considering the submissions of the parties, the Court has
scheduled an evidentiary hearing for January 7, 2008 on the question
of whether the OBF (and the Chase organization) are in "privity" with
the Remey NSA and therefore bound by the Judgment.

All of the pertinent court documents are available here:
http://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html

On Dec 7, 11:04 am, Viv hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

I doubt it. I think he's a very tormented person who, perhaps, bigs
himself up behind a keyboard to compensate for some major problems he
has had/is having in real life. As such it's hard not to feel
compassion for such a tortured, unhappy soul.

CAUTION *** Psychological War Zone *** Newcomers __
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Caution.htm

Baha'i fundamentalists are highly adept at manipulating
and controlling information / disinformation and public
perception, on and off the Internet.

I caution you that appearances are deceiving on Wikipedia,
talk.religion.bahai and alt.religion.bahai, as elsewhere
in bahai cyberspace, BeliefNet, Talisman9, "unenrolled" Baha'i
Yahoo Group, at times the DMOZ and Google directories, and
so on, playing the game of "good cop, bad cop,"*** all of which
have been prime tactics and arenas of Baha'i propaganda and
used to identify and manage dissent.

"I do think it's convenient for some to focus on the messenger--why?--
it conveniently deflects attention from the message." -Bernard Goldberg, Bias

"The ideas that rebels expound tend not to be attacked by those in power.
The latter are inclined rather to kill the messenger by character assassination.
For example, one rebel was said to be a womanizer... bitter... disloyal... and
even, in the words of one accuser, dangerously mentally ill." -C. Tarvis, social psychologist

The American Bahai Mixture - William Garlington. The Bahai Faith in America.

William Garlington. The Bahai Faith in America. Praeger. 2005. c.221p.
bibliog. index. ISBN 0-275-98413-3. $39.95.
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/William%%20Garlington.htm

Dear observer,

I wish to draw your attention to the Foreword to
William Garlington's book, by Professor Jeffrey J. Kirpal
of Rice University, where he states Garlington gently reminds
Baha'is "to recognize that intellectual freedom is not a human
good that can be surrendered to any religious authority,
including Baha'i religious authority" (xiv).

For well over a decade, if not as early as the writings of
Mirza Ahmad Sohrab, numerous Baha'is have labored and
sacrificed attempting to educate their fellow Baha'is
about this most basic of human rights. Doubtlessly, many
of their names will come to mind, along with the ignominious
treatment they've received at the hands of an arrogant and
shameless administration.

Why I Don't Respond to Baha'i Fundamentalists
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Why1.htm

Having observed the tactics of fundamentalists among
my fellow bahais for over twenty-seven years, I've learnt
a few things about the way they operate:

1. Ad Hominem, Scapegoat, Libel, Slander, Defame, Demonize,
Cast in a False Light, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Smear, Discredit,
Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Silence,
Harass, Deceive, etc., etc., the individual...all of which has
become known as "The Baha'i Technique":
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm

2. Lure into supposed discussion then cut the jugular.

3. Work together to create the perception for uninformed non-bahais
that the individual in question is unbalanced, aberrant, "spamming,"
a liar, a slanderer, crazy, disgruntled, reprobate, paranoid, nasty,
obnoxious, mean, enemy of faith, violator of Covenant, Cyberstalker,
etc.... No explanation, substantiation, justification for any of
these attacks and slanders will EVER be forthcoming no matter how,
or how frequently, one asks.

talk.religion.bahai on Usenet
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Usenet.htm

The only unmoderated, i.e., uncensored forum on the Internet for discussion
of all things Baha'i. Note well that one of the tactics of Baha'i
fundamentalists regarding talk.religion.bahai is, and has been, to pollute
the atmosphere with disinformation and discredit liberals with abuse and
slander, so that they can then point to talk.religion.bahai as what happens
without supposedly superior control and restraint on free speech and
conscience, extolling their tightly controlled mouthpiece,
soc.religion.bahai.

Similarly, most of the Baha'i discussions groups on Yahoo that are
moderated are used, or have been used at times, to identify and control
dissenters, including "unenrolled" Baha'i, Bahai-Apologetics, and talisman9.
A concomitant result on all forums, as on BeliefNet, is preventing the
development of serious critical thought, reflection, and discussion.

Further, the abuse liberals are subjected to convinces independently
minded Baha'is to remain silent and keep a low profile, which is precisely
the aim of fundamentalists.

The Baha'i Technique - Slander & Shunning
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm

Compare Shunning > Menu
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Shunning.htm

Shoot the Messenger, Character Assassination, ETC
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Shoot%%20the%%20Messenger.htm

Compare the bahai tactics to the communist cadre or The Modern Inquisition
of Catholicism.

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS
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Numerous observers have noted common methods many
fundamentalists among my fellow baha'is use to avoid various
issues or discredit people who hold opinions other than their own:
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Shunning > Menu
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Shunning.htm

Compare "The Bahai Technique" - Slander & Shunning
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/technique.htm

Steve Scholl on shunning family
Compare LaAeterna's "publicly denounce my family as heretics"

David Langness "cultlike practice of shunning and casting out any
dissidents"

Ruletherod "shunning mentality"

religioustolerance.org "shunning or expelling non-conforming adherents"

FAQ - talk.religion.bahai & alt.religion.bahai - Usenet - FAQ

Newcomers may confirm that I am the founding proponent
for the formation of talk.religion.bahai by reading in the Usenet archive
the REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
http://www.faqs.org/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/talk/talk.religion.bahai

Talk.Religion.Bahai > MENU - Passed Jan 10 1999 - All Related Documents
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/trbmenu.htm

During the last few years since the formation of talk.religion.bahai in
1999, numerous fundamentalist posters have slandered, libeled, and maligned
anyone on talk.religion.bahai who does not share their fundamentalist views
of the Baha'i Faith. Such people have a very long record of harassing people
on AOL, talk.religion.bahai, talisman9, BeliefNet, and other Internet
discussion groups, which even a glance at the links below will confrim.

The situation has become intolerable and we are reclaiming the electronic
territory by exposing what they have done to others, as attested
to by roughly a DOZEN people regarding their incessant lying, bullying,
abuse, and deceit:
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Maneck8.htm
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/hate16.htm