Hi, Larry.

"diamondsouled" (rowe@northwestel.net) writes:

I've already commented on the first portion of your post.

Yes, it is important to be aware that there is a selection process going
on, that one, that the authorities in a religion are chosing to place a
priority on some words over other words. They say these words mean that
those words cannot be accepted.

It is important to be conscious of the opportunity to say since those
words have us aiming high and these words are bringing us down, then we
select what is universal, what is lofty, what is transcending human
segmentation, male dominance, etc.

Hi Hong,

"What do you mean by cause trouble?"

In this case, attempting to have a simple discussion with one or two people
who just talk right past the discussion to their own un-addressable concerns
with no possibility of appeasement. These one or two issue trouble makers
are impossible to talk to about anything except what they want to talk
about, and there is no solution to their problems. That is the kind of
troublemaker I am talking about.

They are one-trick ponies who cannot stop their one, old, well known trick
which some see as clever the first 500 times, but in the end it is just a
trick that we have all seen before. We have all seen both sides to the
issue and made our decisions, except these troublemakers who apparently have
no sense of propriety, justice or the ability to let people make their one
decisions. They keep harping and harping on an issue they cannot control or
influence in any way.

That the kind of trouble I believe I have the right, and the Baha'i Faith
has the responsibility, to avoid. It is what you call, according to your
one and only trick, shunning.

--Kent

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Hi, Larry.

"diamondsouled" (rowe@northwestel.net) writes:

If by compromised you mean that although saying they are universalists,
yet they perceive themselves as a fragment of humanity, I agree. The key
is to transcend such particular fundamental identifications and begin to
perceive the universality of humanity and the intricate tapestry of life
globally.

Hi, honghsien.

(honghsien@gmail.com) writes:

The thought is valid, in my opinion, though this particular prayer may be
more challenging for some Baha'is than the simple one Baha'u'llah asked
them to pray about removing difficulties. If they understand that the
difficulties are what keep humans divided, then they may be led to a
transcendence above the concepts that divide them.

Peace to You, too.

Michael