King Amdo wrote:
> oldwifetale wrote:
>> On Oct 5, 5:24 am, "King Amdo"
hotmail.com> wrote:>>> You can't 'undo' Tribal Sovereignty Donna...only get yourself into
>>> worse and worse negative karma...as the western mace and the chinese
>>> state will find out inevitably.
>>>
>>
>> Okay...
>>
>> (see, i am trying to understand your line of thought - since it has at
>> least remained consistent these past few years)
>>
>> Amdo... how can there be sovereignty until the Ruling Construct (your
>> babylon) is *undone*? Your way offers limited hope and only for the few
>> (it is possible to wish for tribal sovereignty without wishing for
>> *only* tribal sovereignty). Your way seems also too glorifying of
>> destruction and violence. For instance, these Amish people you were
>> speaking about are 'tribal' in every sense of the word. They are like
>> the Mennonites who live in the Ozarks beside my family. However, their
>> 'soveriegnty' will never depend of any type of violence and i can tell
>> you with certainty that they would not wish their sovereignty to
>> 'depend' on pain inflicted upon other humans in any way whatsoever. So
>> while Tibetan Tribes may be more 'ancient' in terms of time and
>> endurance... in my eyes, time does not measure 'quality' or even
>> validate authenticity. Your way is too exclusive, and it also denies
>> the idea that many 'good hearts' are working and moving even within the
>> 'enemy construct' - that there can be tiny lights floating in the dark
>> mire. (Even the xtians must admit this much - their biblical patriarch
>> Abraham argued with his 'god' against the destruction of an entire city
>> if there were only ten good souls living there).
>>
>> It is one thing to willingly sacrifice your life, it is another to
>> sacrifice the lives of others who are not willing to die for your
>> cause. That is a blatant suppression of freedom.
>>
>> So the way i see it... unlearning precedes undoing, and both are
>> necessary prerequisites for the rebuilding of true self-autonomy -
>> without which there can be no real sovereignty for tribal people, nor
>> for those who are caught up in the cogs of the Big Machine (aka 'the
>> dominating society'). *You* are not born and raised 'tribal' - but
>> don't you want that opportunity for yourself if it should arise? If so,
>> then no one should be deprived of the 'choice' if or when it arises.
>> There lies freedom. You act as if the thing is over, time to throw all
>> the wicked suppressors into the *eternal lake of fire* or some such
>> (leaving us with a 'peace' which no one has bothered to create in the
>> meanwhile). Too quick to inflict. But imo, unlearning, undoing and
>> unraveling is long, tedious work - best left to the Weaver herself
>> (altho she may live within all of us) - and there is a lot to 'undo'
>> before this story is 'done' and before a world is 'recreated' - or even
>> before anyone can recreate himself completely. Why make a determination
>> regarding 'who' is deserving of this or that *karma*?
>>
>> The fat lady has not even begun to sing.
>>
>> Donna
>
> The reason why I'm pissed off with you is because you are taking the
> piss Donna (I think). I think you really know I mean spiritual
> purification (U really cannot be that thick). You're playing devils
> advocate in a inappropriate situation. The chinese and the western
> states try and break the entity that is Tribal Soverignty, (obviously
> conncurrently on the individual as well as tribal level also) and as I
> say this is bad karma, and cannot be sustained - like a vacum. The
> Eagle Feather Daniel Zapata gave me, which I have now passed to my
> maternal Mother, represented, as a item of Power from the Sundance
> there on the Dine'h tribal territory, Tribal Soverignty, as a
> innvocation, in the context of Black Mesa, and elsewhere, including
> Tibet, Wales (Cymru), England or wherever. This is why I was, and am,
> on the Tibetal Soverenty case. It really is real magic that changes
> consciousness (potentially) - very powerful stuff as I've said
> before....this particular magic being Tribal Soverignty orientated.
> Massive respect! Shame that assorted egoisers in the
> protest/alternative scene see fit to act as M15 agents in effect and to
> try and sab this process. One could look for explanations...(the anti
> Makah etc/anti tribal animal rights hegmony in the UK protest scene or
> whatever). Whatever I do what I can. Maybe you're just jealous - you
> think that the feather sould be in yuor possession perhaps Donna?!
>
> Amerikkka/the amerikkkan, bwit-ain/the bwitisher - products of negative
> karma m8, and will cease to exist due to the spiritual purification,
> thus the mass consciousness/reality change, or we'll be heading into
> the eco-cide thing. Perhasps it is this purification that U are
> resiting Donna? I mean you're oldish yeah, maybe its more difficult to
> allow consciousness change as you get older?
>
> Forget the christian conservatives Donna - nothing whatsoever to do
> with a saint channelling auspicious consciousness (thus reality
> ultimately) community wide, and more to do with suppression of this
> magic/potential.
>
> This is the overstanding - stop picky picky picky m8
That is to say the magical overstanding of the situation - or at least
a pretty good stab at the truth of it and the potential. Ok so it might
seem like a 'new age' type hypothesis...but if you can grasp the
reality of the western mace, then obviously an end to this hegmony
inevitably leads to a re-emergence in the westernised and westenised
type areas of the auspicious goddess magic - i.e Tribal
Soverignty/individually, cosmic consciousness or whatever - auspicious
stuff anyway. Its essentially a consciousness rather than a verbal
maths equation :)....not just to do with 'love'...but empowerment,
particularly magical (our true inherentance). Looking at the native
american thing, read up on the pre colonial reailty...we're talking
sensing occult realities. (don't start copying their ritual).
Sensistive people aware of the living Mother goddess, as an entity. And
it is this consciousness/reality that western mace try and block from
the people. This is why we need to rediscover paganism as westeners -
it is this beautify and fluffy reality that the western mace try and
kill) And the same sory has been repeated right round the world -
including, of course the people here in twit-ain bwit-ain. Thus the
famous Hopi trad elders prophcecy of the 'Rainbow warriors' is merely a
statement of this re-emergance that is karmically inevitable (at some
point the dam of ritual child abuse will burst)...(the Hopi prophecy
does not of course mean that we as westeners should start pretending to
be native americans). Perhaps the traditional Hopi elders were also
trying to do postive magic there...this crucially is part of the
process also. We make the reality. We have free will.
On Violence Again: The Pashtun have the right to defend Tribal
Soverignty rather than being drawn into/trapped in dumbed down western
mace perversion weeeerrrrrr-ruld. (I judge, with knoledge). Thus a flaw
in the ultimate non violence hypothesis. i.e., the 'leave it to karma',
stay non violent thesis...sure, then you and your people will suffer
pyskik death and your children used as sacrements by the order of scum.
This is why the Pash need to be intellegent and reject the Taliban
thesis and instead to exert Tribal Soverignty (because the Taliban
thesis is flawed and might lead to mass murder by the order of scum)
Be careful
Allah Akbar.
