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Author: RussellT
Date: Apr 19, 2008 13:09

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/04/19/safrica.china/index.html

The weapons are to be used by the government engaged in tyranny against the
courageous Zimbabwe people. Over and over China supports the philosopy of
government tyranny against the people. That is because the Chinese
government itself is anything but a government of the people, so that view
is all it can understand. Over and over, we clearly see China defining
itself, not by hollow words, but by it's actions we see it. Always, they are
on the side of oppression of the people. Are they ever, speaking up and
defending people agianst oppression, anywhere?
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Re: China weapons to Zimbabwe         


Author: James
Date: Apr 19, 2008 13:51

On Apr 19, 4:09 pm, "RussellT" telus.net> wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/04/19/safrica.china/index.html
>
> The weapons are to be used by the government engaged in tyranny against the
> courageous Zimbabwe people. Over and over China supports the philosopy of
> government tyranny against the people. That is because the Chinese
> government itself is anything but a government of the people, so that view
> is all it can understand.  Over and over, we clearly see China defining
> itself, not by hollow words, but by it's actions we see it. Always, they are
> on the side of oppression of the people. Are they ever, speaking up and
> defending people agianst oppression, anywhere?

You are wrong Llama Breath. First of all the communist Chinese sided
with the oppressed slaves of Tibet against the oppression of the
nobles and monks. Have you ever wonder why none of the exiled
Tibetans ever claimed to be a former serf and is fighting for his
freedom to be a serf again? Did any say life as a serf was way better
than life under communist Chinese?
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Re: China weapons to Zimbabwe         


Author: RussellT
Date: Apr 19, 2008 14:09

"James" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b68139a6-3d8b-4681-a64c-4d001e9cefc9@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 19, 4:09 pm, "RussellT" telus.net> wrote:
>You are wrong Llama Breath. First of all the communist Chinese sided
>with the oppressed slaves of Tibet against the oppression of the
>nobles and monks. Have you ever wonder why none of the exiled
>Tibetans ever claimed to be a former serf and is fighting for his
>freedom to be a serf again? Did any say life as a serf was way better
>than life under communist Chinese?
>Of course the exiled Tibetans want the freedom to return to be lords
>in their little serfdoms. They don't want the freedom to punch a time-
>clock to earn their keep. Life in exile isn't bad. Western charity
>can afford to give an exile the life of Riley compared to the pennies
>that the Chinese can afford.
>The west thinks Tibetans live in terrible conditions whereas the
>Chinese are proud that they have raised the Tibetan standard of living
>so much. It's analogous to the west thinking how much they've helped
>the subhuman Third World.

Llama Breath? And what are you, a dragon ass?. At the time of the Chinese
military invasion of Tibet, it is true that much of East Asia was coming out
of a feudal system, some before others. No one disputes...
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Author: demorising
Date: Apr 19, 2008 14:19

On Apr 19, 4:09 pm, "RussellT" telus.net> wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/04/19/safrica.china/index.html
>
> The weapons are to be used by the government engaged in tyranny against the
> courageous Zimbabwe people. Over and over China supports the philosopy of
> government tyranny against the people. That is because the Chinese
> government itself is anything but a government of the people, so that view
> is all it can understand.  Over and over, we clearly see China defining
> itself, not by hollow words, but by it's actions we see it. Always, they are
> on the side of oppression of the people. Are they ever, speaking up and
> defending people agianst oppression, anywhere?

The Chinese weapon ship is making a run for it:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/359772_zimbabwe19.html

A Chinese ship carrying weapons destined for Zimbabwe's government
left the South African harbor where workers refused to unload it
Friday and headed for neighboring Mozambique, an independent human
rights group said.
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Re: China weapons to Zimbabwe         


Author: john
Date: Apr 19, 2008 15:28

"RussellT" telus.net> wrote in message
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>
> "James" hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b68139a6-3d8b-4681-a64c-4d001e9cefc9@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 19, 4:09 pm, "RussellT" telus.net> wrote:
>
>>You are wrong Llama Breath. First of all the communist Chinese sided
>>with the oppressed slaves of Tibet against the oppression of the
>>nobles and monks. Have you ever wonder why none of the exiled
>>Tibetans ever claimed to be a former serf and is fighting for his
>>freedom to be a serf again? Did any say life as a serf was way better
>>than life under communist Chinese?
>
>>Of course the exiled Tibetans want the freedom to return to be lords
>>in their little serfdoms. They don't want the freedom to punch a time-
>>clock to earn their keep. Life in exile isn't bad. Western charity
>>can afford to give an exile the life of Riley compared to the pennies
>>that the Chinese can afford. ...
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Re: China weapons to Zimbabwe         


Author: RussellT
Date: Apr 19, 2008 16:25

"john" ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> James certainly isn't illogical or irrelevant in his opinion. The Tibetan
> people you are supporting
> outside of Tibet are the gangs who supressed their own people when they
> were in power. China...
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Author: john
Date: Apr 19, 2008 17:51

"RussellT" telus.net> wrote in message
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> "john" ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:480a7218$0$29942$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>> James certainly isn't illogical or irrelevant in his opinion. The
>> Tibetan
>> people you are supporting
>> outside of Tibet are the gangs who supressed their own people when they
>> were in power. China
>> did not invade Tibet. If you don't know the facts about Tibet then learn
>> it. Tibet was part of
>> China for centuries well before the exisitance of USA. To say China
>> invaded Tibet is like
>> saying US invaded Virginia so stop lying. Is Chinese view different to
>> US
>> ? US supported
>> oppressive government such as Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for more than 40+
>> years and ...
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Re: China weapons to Zimbabwe         


Author: RussellT
Date: Apr 19, 2008 18:18

"john" ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "RussellT" telus.net> wrote in message
> news:BbvOj.568$PM5.477@edtnps92...
>>
>> "john" ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:480a7218$0$29942$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>>> James certainly isn't illogical or irrelevant in his opinion. The
>>> Tibetan
>>> people you are supporting
>>> outside of Tibet are the gangs who supressed their own people when they
>>> were in power. China
>>> did not invade Tibet. If you don't know the facts about Tibet then learn
>>> it. Tibet was part of
>>> China for centuries well before the exisitance of USA. To say China
>>> invaded Tibet is like
>>> saying US invaded Virginia so stop lying. Is Chinese view different to
>>> US ...
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Re: China weapons to Zimbabwe         


Author: Yu
Date: Apr 19, 2008 19:06

On Apr 20, 4:09 am, "RussellT" telus.net> wrote:

Given the credibility of CNN and BBC, the picture may have been taken
in 1960 in Agentina. Remember we are in the middle of a propaganda
war. The cargo may turn out to be baby milk powder.
> The weapons are to be used by the government engaged in tyranny against the
> courageous Zimbabwe people. Over and over China supports the philosopy of
> government tyranny against the people. That is because the Chinese
> government itself is anything but a government of the people, so that view
> is all it can understand.  Over and over, we clearly see China defining
> itself, not by hollow words, but by it's actions we see it. Always, they are
> on the side of oppression of the people. Are they ever, speaking up and
> defending people agianst oppression, anywhere?
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Re: China weapons to Zimbabwe         


Author: RussellT
Date: Apr 19, 2008 19:10

"john" ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:480a93b5$0$29982$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "RussellT" telus.net> wrote in message
> news:BbvOj.568$PM5.477@edtnps92...
>>
>> "john" ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:480a7218$0$29942$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>>> James certainly isn't illogical or irrelevant in his opinion. The
>>> Tibetan
>>> people you are supporting
>>> outside of Tibet are the gangs who supressed their own people when they
>>> were in power. China
>>> did not invade Tibet. If you don't know the facts about Tibet then learn
>>> it. Tibet was part of
>>> China for centuries well before the exisitance of USA. To say China
>>> invaded Tibet is like
>>> saying US invaded Virginia so stop lying. Is Chinese view different to
>>> US ...
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