On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:27:59 -0000, "Beacon"
wrote:
>
>"Topaz"
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>> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 11:14:30 -0000, "Beacon"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>and who defines manly jobs?
>>
>> It's obvious
>
>If it is so obvious then can you give this obvious definition?
Anything dangerous like soldier is a mans job.
>>
>> I support Islam and hope they take over.
>
>You support marrying six year olds then?
No
>
>Not controled by jews. In any case yes i agree get rid of the current Us
>administration. But you want to replace them with people who accept their
>prophed married a six year old?
What I am really for is National Socialism. But there are so many
Muslims. They have millions of people. It would be good if they wiped
out our Jewish controlled government. And they don't marry six year
olds regardless what it may or may not say in their holy book.
>
>But the man who gets a woman pregnant should be allowed to cut and run and
>the State have to pay the bill? Forgive me if I think your idea sucks.
Children are the future. Getting more White children should be a main
goal of the state. We pay policemen for what they do. We should pay
women to be mothers.
>
>You want a law against stupidity now? Sorry no such law exists!
We should stop people from harming themselves and from getting ripped
off.
>
>YOU claimed that in your ideal world you wouldnt allow women work.
No, that is not what I said. What I said was that the best job for
most women is "mother" and that should be a real job with a real
paycheck. If they are not mothers they should have some other job as
long as it is not a manly job.
>So you
>think children and miothers should be thrown out of their family homes and
>men who wanted them for pleasure should be able to keep it at their expence
>and insist the State look after them?
Men should not lose a house they worked for just because some woman
divorced him. No one who is willing to work should be homeless and of
course children should never be homeless. Instead of giving billions
of dollars to the Jews we should take care of our own people
>
>If slavery was customary would you think it should be left alone?
No
> how about
>places where they have sex with children?
No, and that is a death penalty offense.
> Would you think it should be
>allowed because it is the custom? And you are CONTRADICTING yourself again!
>Society has become accustomed to awarding houses and kids to women. By your
>logic that should be acceptable but you argeu against it!
Christmas is a custom and we should keep that. We should keep the
good customs.
>
>> We shouldn't have
>> any laws telling people what chores to do. But on TV we should show
>> the wife washing the dishes and the husband mowing the lawn.
>
>Men cant be allowed cook or wash dishes? A lot of restuarants will be out of
>business!
We shouldn't have any laws regarding chores. And there is no custom
against men washing dishes in a restaurant.
>
>If iit was customary to have se with children and slavery then on TV would
>you have DAD in bed with children while the wife ties up the family slave
>boy outside the door?
We should only keep customs if they are good.
>>
>> Women should be nurses and flight attendants.
>
>On what basis? Why cant a man make a good nurse? What have you against male
>nurses? Or airline staff?
Women have better people skills.
>
>Maybe in your home. Ill bet you are not a woman? Anyway oif the custom is to
>allow sex with children should that be allowed? What about giving blood. If
>someone can save a childs life and they ay it is not a custom to give blood
>in my tradition but their wife says "ill give it" and the husband says "no"
>should the child die?
We should not let any child die and we should only keep customs if
they are good.
>
>You have no evidence to back this up. Care to prove jews control Ireland or
>Scotland? Or Norway or Sweden?
Britain joined with the USA in invading Iraq. There is nothing to
benefit Britain in this. It is for Jews. The "Bank of England" isn't
really English but Jewish. They have the debt-money system in other
countries also such as Norway and Sweden.
>
>Again an unsupported assertion. There is a plethora of evidence. Do you
>believe Babi Yar was not a massacre?
Aerial photographs of the terrain at Babi Yar, covering the very time
when tens of thousands of Jews were supposed to have been buried in a
mass grave, show the ground at Babi Yar was undisturbed. So we know
Babi yar is a lie.
>
>So what? Are you saying the place does not exist?
The Germans had concentration camps. They were not exterminating
people though.
>you accept the camp exists
>and had jews moved there during WWII. your only problem seem to be that you
>think they were only being held there till they could be brought to
>madagascar. so where were they all after the War?
Millions of them going around telling everyone they are survivors
of some alleged holo. Many millions.
> And why hold them in the
>Middle of Poland?
>And The Nazis had passed the Nurnberg Laws hadnt they?
>all this is without even going into the evidence for execution.
>
>Do you believe Babi Yar had no people?
>
>It is one of those things that is easily said.
>"The Jewish people is being exterminated,"
>every Party member will tell you,
>"perfectly clear, it's part of our plans,
>we're eliminating the Jews, exterminating them,
>a small matter."
>Heinrich Himmler, 1943
This quote is an excellent example of a Holocaust translation. The aim
in Holocaust lore is to take German words which do not translate
exactly into English and give them a homicidal meaning. For example,
"Ausrottung" is used in German to describe the complete removal of
something, the uprooting and clearing away. Here Holocaust people
invariably translate it to mean murder.
Likewise, "Ausschaltung" is used in the sense of disconnecting
something, cutting it off, but to the Holocaust group it means to
murder. This is the technique to twist otherwise innocuous documents
into evidence of mass murder. Look at the first sentence of the quoted
passage and anyone can immediately determine that Himmler was talking
about the "evacuation" of the Jews, not mass murder.
>We cannot shoot or poison those 3,500,000 Jews,
>but we shall nevertheless be able to take measures
>which will lead somehow to their annihilation...
>Hans Frank, 1942
"WOW! The famous Franke-Gricksch "report" once again offered as proof
of
a holocaust. So let's review:
The Franke-Grichsch report says:
"After 300-400 people have gathered in this room, the doors are closed
and from above the containers with the materials are let down into the
pillars."
[Pillars? What pillars? No one found any hollow pillars anywhere at
Auschwitz. But let's go on:]
"When the containers reach the base of the pillars, they produce
certain substances that put people to sleep in one minute. A few
minutes later, the door on the other side, which leads to an elevator,
is opened.
[Well, we know the report can't be referring to Zyklon B: that stuff
take many hours to dissipate and is deadly even in small quantities.
This must be some new secret weapon the Germans invented.]
But the next part really gets ridiculous:
"(Because fresh corpses burn particularly well, the entire process
requires only one-half to one Zentner [50 to 100 pounds] of coke)."
[Man...those Jews, especialy those "fresh" Jews, burned like
firewood.]
Such is the content of the famous Franke-Gricksch report. But what
about the background? Well, it turns out that the report is not a
real
document--it is supposed to be a copy of a real document, but the
original was never seen by anyone except the person who claims to have
copied it. The only name that appears on the copy is that of Eric
Lipman, another of the many Jews who miraculously appeared on the
prosecutorial staff in those post war kangaroo courts.
Now we are all sure that holocaust believers will accept the
Franke-Gricksch report as legitimate evidence of some holocaust; after
all, they accept just about anything as evidence of a holocaust. But
to any reasonably intelligent person, the Franke-Gricksch report is
obviously a clumsy fabrication, just more holocaust hogwash."
Morghus
>Source: Diary of Hans Frank, Governor-general of Poland,
>speaking of Polish Jews,
>as quoted in
>Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, Vol. II, p. 634.
>The motor which supplied the gas was switched on
>by a Ukrainian named Emil
>and by a German driver called Erich Bauer from Berlin.
>After the gassing, the door were opened
>and the corpses removed...
>SS-Oberscharführer Kurt Bolender
>Source: Testimony of SS-Oberscharführer Kurt Bolender,
>as quoted in Yitzhak Arad,
>Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, 1987, p. 76.
>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19420901-kremer/
>This document is one page from the most famous "insider" views of the Nazi
>extermination process: the diary of SS Dr. Johann Paul Kremer.
>Dr. Kremer arrived at Auschwitz on August 30, 1942, where he replaced a
>doctor who had fallen sick. His diary is remarkable not only for its
>explicit mentions of the gassing process, but for the way which Kremer
>continues to relate the everyday things one might find in any diary: where
>he lunched, what he ate, what films he saw, etc.
Reviewed by Arthur R. Butz
When I was writing the Hoax of the Twentieth Century I encountered the
name of a certain Dr. Kremer, a German physician who had been posted
to the Auschwitz concentration camp in the summer and fall of 1942,
and who had made certain entries in his diary that put Auschwitz in a
terrible, even horrible light, e.g. "we are at anus mundi." A limited
examination of the Kremer matter indicated to me that what he was
implicitly referring to, assuming the diary authentic, was the typhus
epidemic that devastated the camp at that time (Hoax, 58, 125ffl.
Moreover the leading bearers of the "extermination" legend had not
attributed great significance to this diary so I paid little more
attention to Dr. Kremer (this Johann Paul Kremer must not be confused
with the Tibère Kremer associated with the Nyiszli book).
When the Faurisson affair erupted in the pages of Le Monde in late
1978, therefore, I was surprised to see the opposition, principally
Georges Wellers of the Center for Contemporary Jewish Documentation in
Paris, emphasize in its arguments the supposed implications of the
Kremer diary. Some reflection revealed the reasons for this emphasis.
Above all, one must recognize the peculiar status of any true diary as
an historical source. It is not written for publication, or even for
the eyes of any but the author and perhaps (as is sometimes the case
with prominent people involved in events known to be the objects of
future scrutiny) a not unfriendly student who has taken the trouble to
acquaint himself, as far as possible, with the context in which the
diary entries were made. Consequently, diaries are particularly likely
sources of sentences lifted out of context if they become involved in
heated public controversy. For one thing, such lifting out of context
may easily be quite innocent, for the reason that the participants in
the controversy are removed from the circumstances in which the diary
was authored. What is worse, the observers of the controversy are
remote not only from the circumstances of the diary, but typically
from the diary itself. Such facts make it especially difficult to set
aright, in a manner convincing to the observers, the contextual
meanings of disputed passages.
For such reasons Wellers was able to make a certain impact with his
comments on the Kremer diary (Le Monde, 29 December 1978), while
Faurisson, when given an amount of space in Le Monde (16 January 1979)
typical of an article in a daily newspaper, could not under the
circumstances give the diary the exposition that the controversy
required.
It is well worth mentioning that Faurisson is a professional and
specialist precisely in a discipline most relevant to such tasks; his
field is "criticism of texts and documents." Among all those whose
views have been prominently aired on any side in the "Holocaust"
controversy, Faurisson is to my knowledge the only such specialist.
The reader should not assume that the Weller's misquotes from the
Kremer diary were "innocent." We read in his cited article the
following alleged quotation from the Kremer diary:
This morning, at 3 o'clock, I attended a special action for the first
time. Compared to that, Dante's Inferno seems a comedy. It is not
without reason that Auschwitz is called an extermination camp.
Among many other things Faurisson had to point out that Wellers had
deleted the word "outside" in what should have been "outside at
3'oclock," which would have made the action in question difficult to
imagine as a gassing. In addition, there was a recoloring of meaning
in the term "extermination camp," which gave the impression that
Kremer had written "Vernichtungslager," a word which, contrary to the
widely held view, did not exist among the Germans during World War II.
What Kremer wrote was "das Lager der Vernichtung," i.e. the camp of
the annihilation, a term that takes on a clear significance only when
the diary is understood in context.
Despite the points that Faurisson scored, there were puzzles
outstanding in connection with the diary. When Faurisson's litigations
arose in 1979 the diary became a point of contention. No longer
subject to Le Monde's space constraints, Faurisson drew up his superb
analysis of the Kremer diary, for use in court, and this analysis
constitutes the principal component of Mémoire en Défense (in legal
context, "mémoire" is close in meaning to our "brief"). After many
pages of analysis of the diary (which says nothing of gassings)
Faurisson shows that the horrors Kremer was referring to were indeed
essentially those produced by the typhus epidemic, and that if there
had been gassings then Kremer would have explicitly written so in the
diary, as Kremer was sufficiently sure of privacy to commit several
anti-Nazi remarks to his diary (that Kremer testified in support of
the propagandists' interpretation of his own diary, before a postwar
German court committed a priori to that interpretation, scarcely
requires explanation here)
>
>Looking at such Holocaust-denial tactics through the lens of general
>se-mantics,
>we can find at least three main shortcomings:
>1. Over- and Under-Defining the Holocaust. The use of "the Holocaust"
>as an over/under-defined term, allowing for the "disproof" of victim
>numbers and atrocity stories.
>2. Extending the Definition over Time. The inability (or refusal) of the
>deniers to accept multiple time-based definitions of the Holocaust, as
>seen in their reading of the Luther memo.
>3. The Two-Valued Orientation. The overwhelming use of the two-val-ued
>orientation in presenting the so-called revisionist version of the
>Holocaust, for example, in their allegations about Nuremberg.
>A strong working definition of the Holocaust with consideration of its
>de-velopment
>over time, along with the exposure of two-valued orientations wher-ever
>they are used, can enable us to see the faulty logic on which Holocaust
>denial is built.
>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/gen-semantics/
>
>
>
>In a memoir written while he was hiding in Argentina, Adolf Eichmann, a
>lieutenant colonel in the SS frequently called the "architect of the Final
>Solu-tion,"
>discusses at length the genesis of the term Endlösung:
>Today I can't recall whether the term "Final Solution of the Jewish
>Question"
>was coined by me or if it came from [Gestapo chief Heinrich] Müller. When I
>read Böhm's book The Jewish State about [Zionist Theodor] Herzl, I
>encountered "Solution of the Jewish Question" [Lösung der Judenfrage] for
>the first time. (1) When in 1935 in the SDHA [Head Office of the
>Sicherheitsdienst (Security Police)] I had been given the Zionist
>association
>as my field of work, I already at that time had started to use the keyword
>"Final Solution of the Jewish Question" in the files; because it was the
>endeavor
>of [Reichsführer-SS Heinrich] Himmler to bring about a definitive
>[endgültig]
>solution ... After the [annexation] of Austria the term "Final Solution of
>the
>Jewish Question" crystallized. "Final Solution" had nothing to do with
>physical
>ending or the end of a physical person. The term from the files "Final
>Solution
>of the Jewish Question" was just being used further. Nobody thought that
>this
>term would include the killing of Jews. When later at the end of 1941 the
>physical extermination was ordered, for reasons of camouflage this -
>harmless
>as such - term "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" was kept as well for
>this. What had meant a mutual satisfaction by emigration, by secretion out
>of
>the hosting people before, was now camouflaging the physical extermination.
>(Aschenauer, pp.229-230)
>Aschenauer, Rudolf, editor. Ich, Adolf Eichmann: Ein historicher
>Zeugenbericht.
>Augsburg, Germany: Druffel-Verlag, 1980.
Certainly the most bogus "memoirs" yet published are those of Adolf
Eichmann. Before his illegal kidnapping by the Israelis in May, 1960
and the attendant blaze of international publicity, few people had
ever heard of him . He was indeed a relatively unimportant person, the
head of Office A4b in Department IV (the Gestapo) of the Reich
Security Head Office. His office supervised the transportation to
detention camps of a particular section of enemy aliens, the Jews. A
positive flood of unadulterated rubbish about Eichmann showered the
world in 1960, of which we may cite as an example Comer Clarke's
Eichmann: The Savage Truth. ("The orgies often went on until six in
the morning, a few hours before consigning the next batch of victims
to death," says Clarke in his chapter "Streamlined Death and Wild Sex
Orgies," p . 124). Strangely enough, the alleged "memoirs" of Adolf
Eichmann suddenly appeared at the time of his abduction to Israel.
They were uncritically published by the American Life magazine
(November 28th, December 5th, 1960), and were supposed to have been
given by Eichmann to a journalist in the Argentine shortly before his
capture-an amazing coincidence. Other sources, however, gave an
entirely different account of their origin, claiming that they were a
record based on Eichmann's comments to an "associate" in 1955, though
no one even bothered to identify this person. By an equally
extraordinary coincidence, war crimes investigators claimed shortly
afterwards to have just "found" in the archives of the U.S. Library
of Congress, more than fifteen years after the war, the "complete
file" of Eichmann's department. So far as the "memoirs" themselves are
concerned, they were made to be as horribly incriminating as possible
without straying too far into the realms of the purest fantasy, and
depict Eichmann speaking with enormous relish about "the physical
annihilation of the Jews." Their fraudulence is also attested to by
various factual errors, such as that Himmler was already in command of
the Reserve Army by April of 1944, instead of after the July plot
against Hitler's life, a fact which Eichmann would certainly have
known. The appearance of these "memoirs" at precisely the right moment
raises no doubt that their object was to present a pre-trial
propaganda picture of the archetypal "unregenerate Nazi" and fiend in
human shape. The circumstances of the Eichmann trial in Israel do not
concern us here; the documents of Soviet origin which were used in
evidence, such as the Wisliceny statement, have been examined already,
and for an account of the third-degree methods used on Eichmann during
his captivity to render him "co-operative" the reader is referred to
the London Jewish Chronicle, September 2nd, 1960. More relevant to the
literature of the extermination legend are the contents of a letter
which Eichmann is supposed to have written voluntarily and handed over
to his captors in Buenos Aries. It need hardly be added that its
Israeli authorship is transparently obvious. Nothing in it stretches
human credulity further than the phrase "I am submitting this
declaration of my own free will"; but the most hollow and revealing
statement of all is his alleged willingness to appear before a court
in Israel, "so that a true picture may be transmitted to future
generations."
>
>The Holocaust denial movement relies on the relative ignorance of the
>av-erage
>person regarding the minutiae that makes up much of Holocaust histori-
>ography. However, much more dangerously, the deniers rely on several of the
>semantic traps that Korzybski and Hayakawa exposed decades ago. While
>on-going
>historical inquiry on the history of the Third Reich will continue to shed
>light on this tragic period in human history
Here is part of an essay by Dr. Robert Ley:
"Who concerned himself with creating good workplaces before? Today the
"Beauty in Labor Office" sees to it that productive people work in
worthy surroundings, not in dirty workplaces. The "Kraft durch Freude"
organization provides German workers with vacations and relaxation.
They travel to the mountains and the beach, and have the chance, often
for the first time, to explore their beautiful fatherland. They travel
in their own ships to the magical southern seas and countries, or to
the splendid beauty of the north. Each German citizen today enjoys the
wonderful achievements of German theater and German music, the best
German orchestras, the best German operas, theaters and films.
Citizens listen to the radio, and play any kind of sport they wish.
There new activities result not in dissipation, distraction and carnal
pleasure, rather in genuine pleasure in physical activity, nature and
culture. He who works hard should be able to enjoy life too so that he
better appreciates his people. The specter of unemployment no longer
haunts the nation. Millions have already found work again, and those
who still have not are cared for by the entire nation. Labor
representatives see to it that the rights of workers and their honor
are not violated, and the factory manager is as responsible for his
employees and they are responsible with him for the success of the
plant in which they together work...
Everyone knows that there is only one man to thank, Adolf Hitler, the
creator of National Socialism, who put the common good above the
individual good, who replaced class struggle of "above and below" and
"right and left" with a new message of the honor of labor and of
service to the people. The National Socialist Labor Service will see
to it that this teaching that makes the German worker the bearer of
the state never vanishes. It is seeing to it that every German
citizen, whatever his occupation may be, first works with his hands
for the good of the nation."
>, the application of the
>principles of
>general semantics to the propaganda of Holocaust deniers and other Nazi
>apolo-gists
>can do much to discredit their claims.
>[snip]
>
>You would be historically wrong there. Check out the Balflour Declaration
>and the T.E Lawerences role in Arabia.
>
>You havent made any case that they do! LOL!
>
There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.
Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":
"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."
"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."
The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner.
On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says:
"When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."
Here are some quotes from the paper "Jews Control the Media
and Rule America"
It may be rather out of date but it still explains why things are the
way they are.
"American Broadcasting Companies (ABC), Columbia Broadcasting
System (CBS), and National Broadcasting Company (NBC). Each of these
three has been under the absolute control of a single man over a long
enough period of time--ranging from 32 to 55 years--for him to staff
the corporation at every level with officers of his choosing and then
to place his imprint indelibly upon it. In each case that man has been
a Jew.
"Until 1985, when ABC merged with Capital Cities
Communications, Inc...the chairman of the board of directors and chief
executive officer (CEO) of the network was Leonard Harry Goldenson, a
Jew...In an interview in the April 1, 1985 issue of Newsweek,
Goldenson boasted 'I built this company (ABC) from scratch.'"
"CBS was under the domination of William S. Paley for more than
half a century. The son of immigrant Jews from Russia..."
"There has been no move by top G-E management to change the
Jewish "profile" of NBC or to replace key Jewish personnel. To the
contrary, new Jewish executives have been added: an example is Steve
Friedman..."
"The man in charge of the television entertainment division at
CBS is Jeff Sagansky. At ABC the entertainment division is run by two
men....nearly all of the men who shape young Amercians' concept of
reality, of good and evil, of permissible and impermissible behavior
are Jews. In particular, Sagansky and Bloomberg are Jews. So is
Tartikoff. Littlefield is the only Gentile who has had a significant
role in TV entertainment programming in recent years."
"American Film magazine listed the top 10...entertainment
companies and their CEOs...Time Warner Communications (Steven J Ross,
Jew) Walt Disney Co. (Michael D. Eisner, Jew)...Of the 10 top
entertainment CEOs listed above, eight are Jews."
"The Newhouse media empire provides an example of more than a
lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers; it also
illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all organs of
opinion... The Newhouse's own 31 daily newspapers, including several
large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the
Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's
largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all
its subsidiaries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television
broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the
countries largest cable networks- the Sunday supplement Parade, with a
circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen
major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Mademoiselle,
Glamour, Vanity Fair, HQ, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self,
Home&Garden...."
"Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership
and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising..."
"the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington
Post. These three...are the newspapers which set trends and guidelines
for nearly all others. They are the ones which decide what is news and
what isn't, at national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands...The Sulzberger family also owns, through the New York
Times Co. 36 other newspapers; twelve magazines, including McCall's
and Family Circle..."
"New York's other newspapers are in no better hands than the
Daily News. The New York Post is owned by billionaire Jewish
real-estate developer Peter Kalikow. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of..."
"There are only three newsmagazines of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News & World Report....The CEO
of Time Warner Communications is Steven J. Ross, and he is a Jew.
"Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington
Post Co., under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham..."
"U.S. News & World Report... owned and published by Jewish real
estate developer Mortimer B. Zuckerman..."
" The three largest book publishers...Random House... Simon &
Schuster , and Time Inc. Book Co....All three are owned or controlled
by Jews...The CEO of Simon & Schuster if Richard Snyder, and the
president is Jeremy Kaplan; both are Jews too."
"Western Publishing...ranks first among publishers of children's
books, with more than 50 per cent of the market. Its chairman and CEO
is Richard Bernstein, a Jew."
"Jewish spokesmen customarily will use evasive tactics. "Ted
Turner isn't a Jew!" they will announce..."
"We are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence
on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also
are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children..."
>> Jews control the media and society.
>
>LOL! If you keep saying it people might believe it! Is that your idea.
>Propaganda? you cant actually support what you state and more and more
>people who read it are i suspect believeing what I state because I HAVE
>supported it.
NOT JOURNALISTS_ZIONIST PROPAGANDISTS
From: libbyroy@
hotmail.com hotmail.com> (libby)
Date: 9/4/02 6:46 PM Pacific Daylight
Sept.04/2002
It's important for the American people to know that all those
'American' journalists/talking heads that they see and read in the
Zionist controlled print and electronic mass media are not working for
America's interests. The very fact that they appear on CNN or write
for the Washington Post, for example, conveys the impression in the
minds of Americans that these 'journalists' are loyal Americans who
have America's best interests at heart. They are, in fact, leading
players in a huge deception and manipulation of the American people
that when attached to a cause such as, 'support of Israel', or
'attacking Iraq', is unrelenting in it's intensity and scope... Fact
is, they
are part of the same ruling elites of mostly Zionists who by now have
a virtual stranglehold on power in America.
And even as I write this, there on CNN's TALKBACK LIVE is Daniel Pipes
of Middle East Forum, propagandizing in favor of a unilateral military
attack on a sovereign nation, Iraq. An act that if committed by any
country other than America, would be considered a war crime and
justification for America to go to war against the invading country.
The following is an excerpt from the foreword to Aldous Huxley's BRAVE
NEW WORLD.
=============
begin excerpt
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The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by
doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is the truth, but
still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth.
By simply not mentioning certain subjects, by lowering what Mr.
Churchill calls an 'iron curtain' between the masses and such facts or
arguments as the local political bosses regard as undesirable,
totalitarian propagandists have influenced [public] opinion much more
effectively than they could have done by the most eloquent
denunciations, the most compelling of logical rebuttals.
===========
end excerpt
===========
In plain English, propagandists don't necessarily need to lie to the
mass audience to control them. By not disclosing critical
facts/information, they ensure that no debate will ever take place on
these critical issues. This omitting of critical facts/information is
one of the very tactics used by CNN and the rest of the Zionist mass
media in America. There are many examples of this tactic and one that
comes to mind is the issue of Israel's weapons of mass
destruction(WMD's). The Zionist mass media in America does not discuss
this at all. They do not want public debate on this issue. One of the
reasons being, of course, that America's great 'ally' Israel stole
it's nuclear weapons program from America. Another issue that the
Zionists keep hidden from Americans is the $3,000,000,000 that goes to
Israel each year, payback from the 'Congress of traitors', no doubt,
for Zionist/Jewish election funding.
So Dear Americans: The next time you see/hear/read the 'work' of the
Zionist 'journalists', Kristol, Barnes, Krauthammer, Blitzer, Kagan
Zahn, Gaffney, Schneider, Limbaugh, Pipes, Kaplan, Lipsky, Zuckerman,
Goldberg and all the others, be aware that they and their bosses are
Zionists and their purpose is to serve the interests of
Zionism/Israel, AND NOT AMERICA. Take everything they say with a grain
of salt and a pound of critique.
=== =====
Roy Libby
=== =====
Truth and disclosure are a deceiver's greatest fears.
ZIONIST POWER STRUCTURE
IN AMERICA
Now that we have established the ruthless and criminal nature of
radical Zionism, one more lesson needs to be understood before we
return to the five dancing Israelis of 9-11 and other related stories.
Even the Zionists themselves have never denied that they have long
exerted great influence in America. But what we must understand is
that the Zionists do not merely influence United States policy....they
dominate it! It is this domination that enables them to pull off
monstrous crimes and then conceal them from the general public.
The observation that Zionists dominate the American media, government,
academia, and Hollywood has been made by many prominent Americans and
is easily verifiable by public information.
Henry Ford said this:
"If after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered
to the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of "scandals" and
"investigations" and "impeachments" for the removal of the
disobedient.
Usually a man with a "past" proves the most obedient instrument, but
even a good man can often be tangled up in campaign practices that
compromise him. It has been commonly known that Jewish manipulation of
American election campaigns have been so skillfully handled, that no
matter which candidate was elected, there was ready made a sufficient
amount of evidence to discredit him in case his Jewish masters needed
to discredit him." 33
Charles Lindbergh said this:
"Their greatest danger to this country lies in the Jewish ownership
and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our
government. 34
Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under
Ronald Reagan said this:
"I've never seen a President-I don't care who he is-stand up to them
[the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they
want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American
people understood what a grip those people have got on our government,
they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea
what goes on."
35
While a guest on ABC's Face the Nation, William Fulbright - US Senator
and Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee - said this before
a national television audience:
"Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned
about the United States' interests." 36
Nationally syndicated columnist and former presidential candidate
Patrick Buchanan said:
"The United States Congress is Israeli occupied territory." 37
And US religious leader Billy Graham and President Richard Nixon once
had the following exchange, which was caught on tape:
GRAHAM: The Jewish stranglehold on the media has got to be broken or
this country's going down the drain". NIXON: "You believe that?"
GRAHAM: "Yes, sir." NIXON: "Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but
I do believe it" 38
But enough of quoting others. Let's look at the facts of Zionist
control.
FACT: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York
Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time
Magazine, Newsweek, People Magazine, US News and World Report and
countless other media and Hollywood companies all have either a
Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or are owned by a media
conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO. 39 Have you ever noticed how
Hollywood movies always seem to portray Germans and Arabs as a bigoted
fanatics or as terrorists? Now you know why!
FACT: AIPAC, the Israeli lobbying organization, is the most feared
lobby in Washington DC. By their own admission, they are capable of
unseating Congressmen and Senators that do not carry out their
requests. The majority of Congressmen from both political parties
receive large donations from AIPAC. Writing for the Nation Magazine,
journalist Michael Massing explains:
"AIPAC is widely regarded as the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in
Washington. Its 60,000 members shower millions of dollars on hundreds
of members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Newspapers like the
New York Times fear the Jewish lobby organizations as well. "It's very
intimidating," said a correspondent at another large daily. "The
pressure from these groups is relentless." 40 (emphasis added)
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=53>
FACT: The Pentagon is under the control of a hard core Zionist named
Richard Perle. The civilian Defense Policy Board actually wields more
control over the military establishment than the Defense Secretary or
the generals and admirals. There are a number of other Zionists who
serve on the board (Kissinger, Cohen, Schlessinger) as well as
non-jewish members who have always supported Israel and the expansion
of the "War on Terror". The notoriously belligerent Perle, nicknamed
the "The Prince of Darkness", is Chairman of the Board. 41
With Perle as Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Zionist Paul
Wolfowitz as Undersecretary of Defense, and Zionist award winner
Douglass Feith as Undersecretary of Defense Policy, the Zionist
Pentagon gang controls 3 of the top 4 civilian leadership positions of
America's armed forces. Careerist scoundrels like Condoleeza Rice and
Donald Rumsfeld are either under their influence or unwilling to
oppose their drive for WW III. The Perle-Wolfowitz-Feith gang
represent a fanatical and warmongering
"government-within-a-government". In league with these Zionist
Pentagon conspirators are jewish Zionist and potential 2004
Presidential candidate, Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) and his
Gentile partner in crime Senator
John McCain (R-AZ).
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=706>
An Israeli journalist named Ari Shavit, lamenting the harsh treatments
that his government dishes out to the Palestinians, made the following
observation in Ha'aretz, a leading Israeli journal:
" We believe with absolute certitude that now, with the White House
and Senate in our hands along with the Pentagon and the New York
Times, the lives [of Arabs] do not count as much as our own. Their
blood does not count as much as our blood. We believe with absolute
certitude that now, when we have AIPAC [the Israel lobby] and [Edgar]
Bronfman and the Anti-Defamation League, , we truly have the right to
tell 400,000 people that in eight hours they must flee from their
homes. And that we have the right to rain bombs on their villages and
towns and populated areas. That we have the right to kill without any
guilt." 42 (emphasis added)
And this only scratches the surface of Zionist power! With such
awesome power to control and cover up events, is it any wonder why so
many of America's journalists and politicians are afraid to even talk
about this issue? Is it any wonder why former President Bill Clinton
would grovel before a jewish audience and say something as ridiculous
as the following statement:
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across
the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and
fight and die." 43
I could go on and on at much greater length about this subject, but I
want to get back to the dancing Israelis. Have I made my point yet?
Subject: THE ZIONIST WHORE
From: "Rasputin" a.seredin@worldnet.att.net
worldnet.att.net>
Date: 9/1/02 8:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:
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AMERICA BECOMES THE ZIONIST'S WHORE
We have reviewed how the Zionists used and discarded Germany. Then
they used and discarded Great Britain. After World War II, it was
clear that the chief remaining global power was the United States. Now
the USA had never had any problem with the Arab people, and had no
reason to quarrel with the Arabs.
For the Zionists to maintain and expand the support they were
receiving from America, it would benefit them greatly if the Arabs and
the mighty US could somehow become enemies. Could the Zionists
possibly stoop so low? Why not? Look at what they had already pulled
off! Remember that the official motto
of the Mossad (Israeli's intelligence organization) is "by way of
deception thou shalt do war." 26
In 1955, one of these "false flag" operations was publicly exposed for
the world to see. Israeli agents, impersonating Arab terrorists, were
caught staging a series of bombings against American installations in
Egypt. 27 When this conspiracy was exposed, it ultimately created such
a controversy that it brought down the Israeli government. The long
since forgotten scandal became known as "the Lavon Affair".
Then again during a 1967 war with the Arabs, Israeli gunboats and
fighter jets deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, an unarmed US
communications ship. 28 Thirty five American sailors were murdered and
170 others injured in a prolonged Israeli onslaught - carried out in
broad daylight and with the U.S. flag flying prominently. The intent
was to kill all of the Americans and then leave the Egyptians to take
the blame. Israel denied that the attack was deliberate but the
chilling stories of the lucky American survivors clearly contradicts
that lie. To this very day, the U.S. Congress has never investigated
the USS Liberty massacre.
In 1989, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in
order to enrage America. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrosvky
became so disgusted with the criminal behavior of his own government
that he defected from the Mossad and tried to warn America of just how
evil and dangerous
they were. Ostrosvky revealed exactly how the Israelis framed Libya
for the bombing of a German night club which killed American
servicemen. 29 It was this frame up job that caused President Reagan
to bomb Libya, killing the 4 year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar
Qadaffi. France refused to allow
US bombers to fly over their air space and bomb Libya because French
intelligence knew that Libya was unjustly framed by the Israelis.
Among some of Ostrovosky's other amazing revelations are: that the
Mossad often uses Arab agents to carry out missions, that Israeli
agents are skilled at impersonating Arabs, that Mossad had a plan to
turn American public opinion against Iraq, and that wealthy Zionists
in America are often called upon to help carry out Mossad missions.
Ostrovsky, whose tell all book, By Way of
Deception, infuriated the Mossad and made him the target of numerous
death threats. 30
In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research
paper issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS).
The research was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to
predict the possible outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain
peace between the Israel and
Palestinians. Here's what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military
machine:
"a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in
both Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to
accomplish mission" 31
Of Israel's Mossad, the officers issued this warning:
"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces
and make it look like a Palestinian Arab act." 32 (emphasis added)
Why does the US, which is trillions of dollars in debt, gives away
billons of taxpayer dollars to a foreign government whose military
violates international laws and whose Mossad is capable of murdering
US troops in order to frame Arabs? Have we lost our minds?
Subject: Bush Must Say 'No' To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
From: xdangerousdna@aol.com aol.com>
(XDangerousDNA)
Date: 9/20/02 4:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: <20020920193931.24488.00000281@mb-mc.aol.com
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LaRouche Says: Bush Must Say 'No' To Israeli Nuclear Blackmail
Statement by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. September 18, 2002
Sept. 18 - I am warning President George W. Bush and European leaders:
If weapons inspectors return to Iraq and an otherwise-certain
Iraq-centered new Middle East war by the U.S. is thus averted, the
governments of the United States and Western Europe must be prepared
to forcefully intervene, to prevent an increasingly more desperate and
psychotic Ariel Sharon's nuclear-armed regime in Israel, the world's
third-ranking strategic nuclear-weapons power, from blowing up the
entire Middle East region, and beyond, with those weapons!
Therefore, I issued the following statement on behalf of my 2004
candidacy for the Democratic Presidential nomination.
At an international web cast, before a live audience in Washington on
Sept. 11, 2002, I identified three hurdles that had to be overcome to
avert an Iraq war that would trigger a perpetual "Clash of
Civilizations" religious conflict and a New Dark Age: First, the
United Nations Security Council had to become the venue for dealing
with the Iraq situation, and a reasonable resolution had to be
drafted, that would be agreed to by President Bush, overriding the
Sharon-influenced "war party" within his own Administration's senior
ranks. Second, the resolution had to be accepted by Iraq's Saddam
Hussein, as well as by President Bush. With those two conditions met,
LaRouche warned, the gravest, remaining danger to overcome would be a
berserker move by Sharon in Israel to sabotage the peaceful resolution
and blow up the region.
It was the threat of an Israeli nuclear attack on Iraq in 1991 that
blackmailed the first Bush Administration into launching Operation
Desert Storm. Today's Israel, under the insane Sharon regime, is the
only nation on Earth that genuinely fits the profile of a "rogue
state" armed to the teeth with "weapons of mass destruction." Israel
has the third largest nuclear weapons arsenal on Earth, and a triad of
submarine, missile, and bomber delivery systems, capable of
obliterating the entire Persian Gulf. Israeli scientists have recently
threatened that they now have the capability of launching an
intercontinental ballistic missile, meaning that no place on
Earth-including the United States-is exempt from an Israeli
preemptive nuclear attack. LaRouche asks you: Do you dare dismiss this
threat from Sharon?...
Since the 1956 attack on Egypt by Britain, France, and Israel, until
the 1989-1991 break-up of Soviet power, Israel's access to nuclear
weapons had made it the third "tilt" power in the global strategic
equation.
Already in 1956, it took an experienced military man, President Dwight
Eisenhower, to force Israel to back down from the Suez invasion, after
both Britain and France had withdrawn under American pressure.
Eisenhower not only threatened to cut off all U.S. military and
civilian aid to Israel; he also threatened to remove the tax-exempt
status of all American organizations that provided aid to Israel. An
even more resolute action will now be required from a far-less
qualified President George W. Bush, to stop Sharon from carrying out
either a false-flag "Islamist" terrorist attack against an American
target, or a nuclear attack on Iraq or Iran. This is deadly serious
stuff, and your personal involvement in the effort to stop it is
vital.
Are you prepared to have the Sharon regime in Israel once again
blackmail an American President into starting a war in the Persian
Gulf, out of fear of an Israeli weapons of mass destruction attack on
Baghdad? Do you have any idea what the consequences will be for the
U.S. and world economy, if a new Persian Gulf War, costing American
taxpayers between $2-3 trillion, is launched today, under the current
conditions of a collapsing U.S. economy and a thoroughly bankrupt
world financial system?
I warned that the toleration for the swamp of Sharon agents inside the
Bush Administration, is another grave impediment to the President
taking the urgently required action, in concert with our European
allies and Russia, to stop Sharon from provoking this perpetual war.
In a recent mass-circulation LaRouche in 2004 release, "The Pollard
Affair Never Ended," I named the names of the leading Sharonists
inside the Bush Pentagon and State Department-Paul Wolfowitz, Richard
Perle, Doug Feith, David Wurmser-some of whom literally prepared the
foreign policy doctrine of perpetual war for then-Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in July 1996. These Netanyahu-Sharon Likud
moles inside the Bush foreign policy and national security
establishment are still suspected, now with more and more evidence of
involvement with the convicted Israeli spy, the American-born Jonathan
Pollard.
Since the release and circulation of a million copies of the "Pollard
Affair Never Ended" campaign document, new, even more damning evidence
has surfaced. Therefore, I must intensify my demand for a thorough
national security investigation into key staffers in the Office of
Vice President Dick Cheney, beginning with his chief of staff and
national security advisor, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.
Libby, a protégé of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz for the
past 30 years, has assembled a "shadow national security council" in
the Vice President's Office, which has protected the Israeli agents
nest inside the Pentagon and State Department-and blocked an urgently
needed purge of these Likudniks. Libby has his own longstanding deep
ties to the Sharon circles, including to the Pollard spy ring.
While out of government, Libby served between 1985-2000 as the
personal attorney for fugitive swindler Marc Rich. Rich was indicted
by the U.S. Justice Department in 1983 for tax evasion and for trading
with the enemy, and he fled the United States, establishing a
luxurious hide-away in Zug, Switzerland.
Today, according to Israeli sources, Rich is under investigation, for
illegal contributions to Ariel Sharon's last political campaign. He
has been involved in Russian Mafia operations in Africa, and, through
his Marc Rich Foundation in Israel, has openly financed international
operations of the Israeli Mossad. Libby's law partner and mentor,
Leonard Garment, was a pivotal player in the Israeli government's
damage control effort, following the Pollard arrest in November 1985,
and he served as the attorney for Israeli Air Force Col. Aviem Sella,
the man who recruited and deployed Jonathan Pollard.
Now, Ariel Sharon's regime is Hell-bent on provoking a regional war in
the Middle East, a war pivoted on an Israeli pre-emptive attack on
Iraq. The threat is that, if President Bush does not virtually
exterminate Iraq, and neighboring countries, too, Israel will. This
means the likely use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons. All
the while, Sharon's Washington moles are operating under the shadows
of the Vice President and the Secretary of Defense of the United
States. If Sharon is to be stopped from launching World War III in the
Middle East, this entire Pollard stay-behind apparatus must be
thoroughly investigated, exposed, and removed from government-now! It
is time for these Israeli agents and spies to be kicked out of
government, and the Israeli government to desist from its nuclear
blackmail. I demand it. I can not believe that any sane and patriotic
American would not back me up "100%%" on this specific issue.
Support me actively on this issue. If you are serious about the
security of our nation and its people, I should be able to count on
you.
<http://www.larouchein2004.net/pages/pressreleases/2002/020918isrblackmail>_
prt.htm
the following is the Israeli black propaganda article:
<http://www.mediamonitors.net/gillespie1.html>
Israel is the third largest arms dealer in the world. They have
violated hundreds of UN resolutions and they constitute a threat to
the entire Middle East, having occupied three countries, Syria
(www.ussliberty.org <http://www.ussliberty.org>) Lebanon, and
Palestine.
So, why not bomb Israel?
<http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=334318>
ISN'T IT INTERESTING HOW THE ABOVE ARTICLE BY FISK IS THE ONLY
PRESS/MEDIA THAT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR THAT MENTIONED THAT RITTER WAS
MAKING REGULAR TRIPS TO ISRAEL TO BRIEF THE ISRAELIS AS TO WHAT HE WAS
DOING WITH THE UNSCOM WEAPONS INSPECTIONS TEAMS IN IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE
UNDER THE DIRECTION OF RICHARD BUTLER. NO WONDER IRAQ WANTED THEM OUT
BACK IN 1998 AS I CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND SUCH (ESPECIALLY AFTER ISRAEL
HAD VIOLATED IRAQI SOVEREIGNTY WITH THE EARLIER BOMBING OF THE NUCLEAR
REACTOR).
I HOPE SUCH SPYING DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN IF PEACE IS GIVEN A CHANCE BY
aLLOWING WEAPONS INSPECTORS BACK INTO IRAQ... HOWEVER, I THINK THE
ONLY WAY TO PREVENT A US ZIONIST-DRIVEN INVASION WOULD BE TO FLOOD
BAHGDAD WITH US AND EUROPEAN PEACE ACTIVISTS... IRAQ COULD PUT THEM UP
FOR A YEAR TO LEARN ARABIC OR SIMILAR.
OUR BIASED PRO-ISRAEL MEDIA ONLY SOMETIMES MENTIONS SPYING BUT NOT
THAT IT WAS ISRAELI SPYING VIA UNSCOM... THE BRITISH PRESS/MEDIA
PROVIDES MUCH BETTER
COVERAGE...
Subject: ISRAEL SHOULD HAVE UN WEAPONS INSPECTIONS AS WELL MANY
AMERICANS ARE WAKING UP TO ISRAELI TREACHERY LIKE WITH THE USS LIBERTY
ATTACK IN WHICH ISRAEL MURDERED 34 SAILORS AND WOUNDED 171 MORE JUST
TO STEAL EVEN MORE LAND IN THE GOLAN IN SYRIA:
<http://www.ussliberty.org>
israel should be made to accept UN weapons inspections as well FOR ITS
NUKES AND CHEMICAL/BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS:..
Not In Our Name... <http://www.nion.us/> Petition against a war with
Iraq.
<http://www.itsforums.co.uk/zone0/viewforum.php?f=10>
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=668>
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=643>
<http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=706>
>
>Is htis President WATERGATE Nixon? the guy who resigned because he LIED?
>LOL! Have you ever heard of "argument form authority"?
>LOL. And what an "authority" you picked eh?
A former president can't be called a non-authority. And the Jews do
control the media.
I heard Izzy Asper died so the following article is outdated. But it
still gives a lot of insight on Canada.
By Dr. William Pierce
"As you may be aware, the mass media in
Canada are as much under Jewish control as in the United States. The
undisputed top media mogul in Canada is Israel Asper, who is commonly
known by his nickname "Izzy." With his sons Leonard and David and
other family members, Izzy Asper owns CanWest Global Communications
Corporation.
A Gentile, Conrad Black, also used to be a major player in the
Canadian media, but a little over a year ago Black's Southam News,
Inc., was bought out by Izzy. CanWest now owns more than 60 per cent
of Canada's newspapers and other media outlets. That's more than 60
per cent of all of Canada's mass media in the hands of one Jew.
Included are 14 metropolitan dailies and 128 local newspapers across
the country, including the Vancouver Sun, the Vancouver Province, the
Calgary Herald, and the Montreal Gazette. CanWest also owns the
National Post, which is distributed throughout Canada. In addition
Izzy owns media in the United States, Australia, New Zealand, and
Northern Ireland.
Last month Izzy issued a written directive to his newspapers,
instructing them that from now on they must print nothing critical of
Israel or of Israeli actions or policies. This is a rare thing.
Usually directives of this sort are oral only, and great care is taken
to keep them from coming to the attention of the public. But Izzy,
with even more brass than is customary for his tribe, made his
directive public. He announced that, beginning three weeks ago,
December 12, the editorial content of all of his newspapers would be
homogenized, and they all would be pro-Israel.
Now here's the interesting part: if all of Izzy's Gentile underlings
were simply corrupt-were simply paid mercenaries who wrote what they
were told to write-then there would be no controversy; all of the
local editors and reporters and columnists simply would follow orders.
But there is a controversy. A group of reporters and writers at the
Montreal Gazette have rebelled, at least for the moment. One of them,
Bill Marsden, an investigative reporter, revealed on a Canadian
Broadcasting Corporation radio program called "As It Happens" that his
editor at the Gazette had instructed him never to report anything that
might reflect badly on Israel. Paraphrasing Izzy's directive, Marsden
said, and I quote: "We do not run in our newspaper op-ed pieces that
express criticism of Israel and what it is doing in the Middle East."
· end of quote-Marsden and 54 other reporters at the Montreal
Gazette went on strike in protest at what they describe as undue
corporate interference with freedom of the press.
Their strike has infuriated Izzy. Izzy's son David characterized the
striking reporters as "childish" and "self-righteous." He said, and I
quote: "Why don't they just quit and have the courage of their
convictions? Maybe they should go out and, for the first time in their
lives, take a risk, put their money where their mouth is, and start
their own newspaper."-end of quote-
How's that for chutzpah, as the Jews like to call it? One can read in
David Asper's reaction to the reporters the thought, "How dare these
mere Gentiles, these mere goyim, question what we, God's Chosen
People, decide should be the party line for Canada's newspapers! How
dare they!" I mean it's not just that Izzy owns the Montreal Gazette,
and so he is entitled to set the editorial policy, and other
newspapers can set different policies. Izzy thinks that he is entitled
to set the editorial policy for all of Canada's newspapers and
determine what all Canadians think.
The man chosen by the Aspers to write the editorials for all of their
newspapers is Murdoch Davis. When asked by "As It Happens" whether or
not one of CanWest's newspapers would be permitted to buck the party
line on Israel, Davis replied, and I quote: "No. It is clearly the
intent that the newspapers will speak with one voice on certain issues
of overarching national or international importance."-end of quote --
When asked specifically whether or not one of the Asper newspapers
would be permitted to raise the question of Israel's long-standing
violation of international law and its defiance of UN resolutions
calling for withdrawal from illegally occupied Palestinian territory,
Davis again responded in the negative.
So that's the present situation with freedom of the press in Canada:
not really very different from the situation in the United States. So
what about the mentality of journalists? The fact that the reporters
at the Montreal Gazette are protesting Izzy's directive that they can
report nothing negative about Israel indicates that they are not
entirely mercenary. To me, however, it does not indicate that they are
independent thinkers. I believe that they are as much lemmings as the
dullest couch potato or sports fan. What caused their protest was the
arrogant and contemptuous way in which the Aspers went about
reconciling two conflicting elements in the Jewish party line.
On the one hand journalists have been taught that the United Nations
is a splendid and admirable organization, whose resolutions should be
obeyed. They also have been taught that all races and ethnic groups
are equal-in fact, essentially the same-but that racial minorities and
underdogs generally deserve our special sympathy, and that in any
conflict with a ruling group the underdogs are in the right. That's
standard liberal dogma. You have to believe that in order to be a
journalist. On the other hand, journalists have been taught that Jews
are wonderful people who can do no wrong, and that to think otherwise
is anti-Semitism, which is as bad as or worse than racism. It's hard
enough reconciling the elevated status of Jews with the concept of
racial and ethnic equality, but most journalists by working at it are
able to do it-except where the conflict between Jews and Palestinians
is concerned. That requires a special effort and really careful
handling by their Jewish bosses. How do you explain to a journalist
who already believes all of the liberal dogma that if Iraq ignores a
UN resolution it should be bombed into the Stone Age and then starved
into submission with a rigid trade embargo, but if Israel ignores 14
UN resolutions we should respond by sending the Israelis more military
and economic aid?
How do you explain to a journalist who has been taught that when South
Africa used to be a White country and practiced apartheid, and the
South African police sometimes beat information out of captured Black
terrorists, it was a terrible thing and had to be condemned in the
strongest terms, but when Israel practices apartheid, assassinates
Palestinian leaders, and tortures Palestinian prisoners, nothing
should be said about it?
How do you explain to a journalist that it is an intolerable threat to
the security of the world if some Muslim country develops weapons of
mass destruction, and the United States is justified in a preemptive
strike to destroy the weapons production facilities, but when a
psychotic little country like Israel builds an arsenal of chemical,
nuclear, and biological weapons, using materials and technology stolen
from us, it's OK, and we should ignore it?
How do you explain to a journalist steeped in the tenets of feminism
that he shouldn't say anything about Israel's booming slave trade in
girls and women kidnapped from eastern Europe and forced to work as
sex slaves?
How do you explain to a journalist who believes wholeheartedly in
egalitarianism that it's perhaps regrettable but certainly excusable
when Jews rocket Palestinian villages and use Palestinian children for
target practice, but it's "terrorism" and completely unjustifiable
when the Palestinians hit back?
Believe me, explaining these things is tricky, but it can be done, if
it's done with patience and care. It can be done, because when it
comes to matters of faith, a lemming really isn't rational. He's quite
capable of believing two mutually contradictory things at the same
time. The problem that brought on the mini-rebellion at the Montreal
Gazette is that Izzy wasn't patient and careful. He was arrogant and
contemptuous of his Gentile reporters. But they'll get over it, I'm
sure. They always do. They're lemmings.
But, as I said, what is happening now in Canada is interesting. It
gives us insight into the workings of journalists' minds, and it also
brings out into the open not only the monopoly Jewish control of the
Canadian mass media but also the way in which that control is used to
slant the news and Canadian public opinion so as to serve Jewish
interests to the detriment of Canadian interests.
Do you think that any of these revelations will be of benefit to
Canadians? Will the average Canadian say, "Oh, my goodness! I didn't
realize that one man, and a Jew at that, controls more than 60 per
cent of all the mass media in Canada and is using that control to
deceive Canadians as to what is happening in the Middle East. That's
terrible! We'd better have our lawmakers do something to break up this
media monopoly, so that we will have a better chance to learn the
truth about what's happening in the world when we read a newspaper or
watch a television news program."
What do you think? I think that about 98 per cent of Canadians won't
even look up from their ball games. I think that there's not a
politician in Canada who will dare go up against Izzy Asper. This
whole tempest at the Montreal Gazette will blow over in a few days,
and all of Izzy's newspapers and other media will toe the party line
as if nothing had happened.
And now I'm talking only to the two or three or four per cent of
Canadians-and also to the two or three or four per cent of
Americans-who aren't so absorbed in their ball games that they don't
notice things like this and don't really care either. I'm talking to
the small portion of the White population in both countries -- and in
fact, in countries around the world-who do notice and do care. I want
you to understand that this is the way nations lose their freedom.
More than that, this is the way races become extinct.
The majority of the population in Canada and the United States and in
every country in Europe consists of lemmings, who always have been
manipulated by whoever is in power. For approximately the last 100
years the power to manipulate the thinking of the lemmings-of the
masses, if you prefer-has been shifting from the authority figures in
the government and in the churches to the people who control the mass
media. These days the people who control the media also control the
government for all practical purposes, and the churches have become
irrelevant, which is why the Canadian government won't try to break up
Izzy's media monopoly and why the politicians in the United States
will never go beyond pretending to be concerned about too much sex and
violence on television when they have a mock fight with the media.
Controlling a country's mass media doesn't mean just being able to
exert a decisive influence on a country's foreign policy, as Izzy
Asper is doing in Canada, and as his fellow Jews long have done in the
United States. It doesn't mean just getting a country involved in
unnecessary wars and subjecting its citizens to retaliatory terrorist
attacks. It means influencing immigration policy. It means influencing
educational policy. It means influencing social policy. It means being
able to control the way most of a country's people think about
everything: about race and morality and lifestyles and other countries
and freedom and the meaning of life. Most of the degenerative changes
that have taken place in America and in Canada since the Second World
War have been consequences of Jewish media influence. As that
influence continues to grow, the chances of our people being able to
throw off the yoke and regain control of our own destiny become
smaller and smaller.
In Canada at the moment, Izzy Asper's surfeit of chutzpah has brought
to the attention of the public-that is to the attention of that small
portion of the public that cares about such things-his monopoly
control of Canada's mass media and his intent to use those media for
Jewish propaganda purposes. Light has been cast on this grave
situation because most journalists are lemmings, and a few of them are
chattering excitedly now about things such as "freedom of the press."
Really, the whole debate is silly. Canada had no freedom of the press
even before Izzy got his greedy hands on most of Canada's newspapers.
For years it has been illegal in Canada to publish anything considered
"racist" or "anti-Semitic" or even Politically Incorrect. When a
Canadian buys copies of any of my books and they are mailed to him,
the Canadian secret police confiscate them at the border. Publicly
challenging the details of the Jewish "Holocaust" story can result in
a prison term for a Canadian. Canada's journalists thought all of
that-stopping "hate," as they called it-was just fine. Pretty soon
they will realize that requiring all mass media to say only nice
things about what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians is also part
of the noble effort to stop "hate," and that also will be just fine
with them.
We can't change the nature of lemmings. Someone always will manipulate
them. What is of the utmost importance is who it is that manipulates
them, because whoever that is will determine the course taken by the
whole society, by the nation, by the race. In the past, when it was a
king or a pope or a dictator who set the party line, many mistakes
were made, sometimes due to selfishness or irresponsibility, sometimes
due to ignorance or carelessness or stupidity or prejudice. But at
least the people setting the party line for the masses were our
people, members of our own race. Now, increasingly, the arbiters of
the party line are Jews or people wholly under Jewish influence. And
the Jews, as always, are looking out only for their own interests, not
for ours. To them we are merely tools to be used in advancing their
interests.
And that's at best. At worst they are pursuing policies intended not
only to advance their interests, but also to destroy us. Don't try to
debate this matter with the Jews; they will, of course, deny it. Just
look at the policies they have been pushing for the past 50 years and
where those policies have been taking us. Just consider the facts, not
their specious arguments designed to keep you demoralized and
non-resisting.
My fellow Americans and my fellow Canadians: we are in a bad
situation. Let us stop ignoring it. Let us begin deciding what we're
going to do about it. I'm doing what I can do in speaking out about it
and getting others to speak out. You must decide what you are able and
willing to do and then begin doing it.
Thanks for being with me again today."
The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. It is
distributed by e-mail each Saturday to subscribers of ADVlist.
>> It's obvious that everything is for women and minorities.
>
>For something you claim is "obvious" you dont come up with any support do
>you?
Affirmative action
>And you refused to look at counter evidence plenty of which I have supplied
>you.
>
>I don't usually call people bigots or Nazis but I can always make an
>exception in your case.
>
>So thats more bigoted opinion and no actual evidence then is it? evasion
>noted.
>>
>> Her husband was the king and she became the leader when he died. This
>> is one of the reasons we should not have monarchy. The first king is
>> always a man because men are the natural leaders.
>
>Wrong! Monoarchy under succession of eldest male works that way. Under
>Breton Law that did not operate in Ireland where it was uncommon but not
>impossible for a woman to lead a clan. I note you snipped Elizabeth I, and
>Granauaile (Grace O Malley) the Pirate queen?
>
>Evasions noted!
I might look them up if this was a short post. But this is long post
and such persons don't seem significant enough in the debate.
Leuchter didn't do any business in Massachusetts (no death penalty
there) where the engineering nit picking was brought to court due to
Jewish pressure. This means it had nothing to do with any job
applications or anything like that. It had to do with Leuchter saying
he was an engineer in private conversation and some papers. He might
have said he was an engineer in the Leuchter report, I don't totally
recall.
It is as ridiculous as it sounds that he was taken to court over it.
And this was shortly after making the Leuchter report. The situation
is easy to understand by people in the know. It is simply that America
is ruled by the Jews.
He was charged with falsely claiming to be an engineer. The fact is
that he was an engineer because he did engineering work, he didn't
have a piece of paper to prove it but neither did Henry Ford.
Leuchter also did not do business with the general public but only
with prisons. The charge against him was a technicality that was only
brought to court because of the Jews. Everyone knew this at the time.
Jews and other leftists were outside the courtroom holding signs
saying Leuchter was a Nazi and things like that. Leuchter's supporters
were also there with signs. Many of his supporters wore black armbands
that said "Free Speech".
He made some kind of deal in court saying he wouldn't call himself a
engineer anymore and the case ended. Everyone knew the real reason he
was brought to court-because he made the Leuchter Report.
He also lost all his work in the prisons for telling the truth about
the alleged "gas chambers". Jews like to brag about how many
historians and other people believe in their holohoax. They don't tell
you what happens to people who don't believe. In Germany they are sent
to prison. In America they lose their jobs.
They had crematories for dead bodies. No one denied that and so what.
>August 26, 1942: "Material for Special Treatment". Permission to send a
>truck to pick up Zyklon-B.
>September 1-5, 1942: Diary of Johann Paul Kremer. Dr. Kremer witnessed
>gassings in Auschwitz and wrote about them in his diary.
See Kremer above
>January 29, 1943: "Cremation with Simultaneous Special Treatment". It was
>important to conduct gassing and cremation at the same time.
>January 29, 1943: "Vergasungskeller". The gas chamber room's purpose is
>revealed ("gassing cellar").
>March 31, 1943: Krema II Inventory. Mentions the devices by which the
>Zyklon-B was poured into the gas chamber.
>June 24, 1943: Krema III Inventory. Lists the fourteen (fake) showerheads
>and "one gas-tight door" installed in the gas chamber.
>May 24, 1944: "Unconditional Secrecy". An SS man is sworn to secrecy "to
>carry out the Jewish evacuation."
>June/July 1944: "Revealing a State Secret". A woman is executed for having
>revealed Auschwitz's secrets.
>
>
>
>Other Documents:
>
>
> Cremation at Gusen: A Timesheet. Shows the cremation of 94
>corpses in less than 20 hours on November 7, 1941.
>
> Leuchter Consent Agreement. Holocaust Denier Fred Leuchter
>admits he is not an engineer and nevertheless represented himself as such.
>
See above
>
>REally? where can one find these photos and the report on them?
>
>I dont suppose you will supply a reference to them will you?
>
>You wouldnt be referring to people like John Ball and his alalysis of the
>likes of this:
>
>Brugioni, Dino A. and Poirier, Robert G. The Holocaust Revisited: A
>Retrospective Analysis of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Extermination Center.
>Washington D.C.: Central Intelligence Agency, " " 1979. Document Number
>NTISUB E 280 002.
>
>
>In their 1979 publication entitled The Holocaust Revisited: A Retrospective
>Analysis of the Auschwitz -Birkenau Extermination ComplexDino Brugioni and
>Robert Poirier analyzed and presented highly magnified images from this
>footage
>
>In 1992, Ernst Zündel's Samisdat Press published a book by a geologist named
>John Ball entitled Air Photo Evidence containing his analysis of the images
>available to Brugioni and Poirier, plus other photographs not in the
>original report 11. Ball claimed that none of the available footage showed
>signs of extermination such as smoke from cremation pits. Ball, John C. Air
>Photo Evidence. Samistadt Publishing, " " 1991.
>
>
>John Zimmerman has also written a book entitled Holocaust Denial:
>Demographics, Testimonies, and Ideologies recently published by University
>Press of America. A detailed analysis of the Auschwitz aerial imagery by
>photointerpreter Carroll Lucas is contained in Appendix IV
>
>
http://www.holocaust-history.org/see-no-evil/ "See No Evil: John Ball's
>Blundering Air Photo Analysis".
>
>
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/08/thats-why-it-is-denial-no
>t-revisionism.html
>
>For information about Ball's professional and intellectual credibility see
>"John Ball: Air Photo Expert?" and "John Ball's $100,000 Challenge: Where is
>John Ball?".
>
>
>Here is Balls work:
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html
>
>Blatant factual mistakes immediately betray Ball's historical ignorance.
>E.g., it is known that many more than 33,000 people were buried in Babiy Yar
>(this will be discussed in the next posting in the series). Sonderkommandos
>did not stop their work on 19th September (see below; this may have been a
>typo in a source Ball used ("19th" instead of "29th"), but even so, it shows
>that Ball simply did not research the issue properly). And there is much
>more evidence
>(
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/04/thats-why-it-is-denial-n
>ot-revisionism_07.html)
>
>for the massacre than simply testimonies.
>
>
>Photos taken on September 26, 1943 may be examined on USHMM's site.
>
http://www.ushmm.org/uia-cgi/uia_query/photos?hr=null&query=dc431o2727
>
>You can see the area "analyzed" by Ball on his site.
>
http://www.air-photo.com/english/babi.html
>
>OK, so Ball "missed" most of the ravine in his "analysis". For those who
>know deniers' methods this is not really surprising.
>
>What scholarly sources say that people were being killed exactly in this
>part of the ravine? None that I know of.
>To repeat: on each of the plans the information may not be complete, but
>none of them consider Ball's area as a place where any killings took place.
>
>'Nuff said, really. Here we have some vile ignoramus, trying to "prove" that
>killing of tens of thousands did not happen, based on nothing but his own
>idiocy.
In both the two existing disinfectant buildings at Auschwitz-Birkenau
Concentration Camp in Poland, there is irrefutable visual and forensic
evidence that zyclon B cyanide had been used to kill lice which
carried deadly typhus. The blue markings inside and outside through
twenty six centimetres of brickwork are still there today sixty years
after the end of WWII.
In the alleged gas chamber at No. 2 crematorium there is NO visual or
forensic evidence of zyclon B cyanide ever being used.
>Lots of examples of phenotypical features uncommon to Black africans. So
>what? We also know the Pheoniceans were white.
>
>
>Would that be the SCIENCE FICTION writer Silverberg?
>
>>
>>God's are not human. Any "god" male or female can be worshiped by
>> mere humans. But for beings that actually exist, men became the
>> Pharaohs.
>
>Your logic as usual is fallacious.
>
>It is suffieient to show just one female leader the prove your contention
>that "all leaders were male" Wrong!
>
>It is not sufficient to show one male leader to disprove my contention that
>"some leaders were female"
>
>
>Already dealt with above.
>
>>
>> Nurses and other jobs should be reserved for women.
>
>More of your unsupported opinion?
They have better people skills.
>
>And for most men is "father". So what has that to do with women not being
>paid?
"Father" should not be a job with a paycheck. "Mother" should.
>
>Okay so all men when all the money for the houlehold is paid (food renbt
>clothes car school) should give half of what is left to the women?
"Mother" should be a real job with a real paycheck, from the state.
If they are not mothers they should do some other work.
>If the
>house could be run like that then Im sure women would be happy to stay
>there. Most men probably would too.
"Mother" and not "father" should be a real job with a paycheck from
the state.
>
>Exterminated? And you claim the holocaust never happened?
http://www.noontidepress.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=357
Filmed on location at the Auschwitz camp site in Poland, this stunning
video by Jewish-American investigator David Cole shows that the "gas
chamber" that has been displayed to hundreds of thousands of tourists
is actually a propaganda prop. Alicia, an official tour guide, assures
David Cole, on camera, that the "gas chamber" in the main camp that is
shown to visitors is in its original, unaltered state. Then Dr.
Franciszek Piper, head curator of the Auschwitz State Museum,
acknowledges to Cole that this "gas chamber" is actually a postwar
creation. This video also tackles other Holocaust claims, including
the "human soap" fable. Shows that fraudulent "proofs" of homicidal
gassings were produced after the end of World War II, and that
visitors to the Auschwitz camp site have been systematically deceived
for decades.
>
>No he looses the house because the woman is ther looking after kids and it
>is their home and they are not married anymore.
Men should not lose a house he worked for because a woman divorced
him. But no one should be homeless. We could build condos for the
women and children.
>
>So if they have greater rights to the children do the children have right to
>live in a stable environment and not be ripped from the family home and
>friends school etc.?
No and women should think of that before they divorce a man.
>
>Wrong! Elizabeth I was NEVER MARRIED! You really should pay attention. do
>you make a habit of ignoring what you dont like? Do you know whayt a bigot
>is?
Then maybe she was a daughter and the king and queen both died.
>
>How is having women in the police promoting lesbianism?
They probably are. But whether they are or not they are doing a mans
job and we should not allow that.
>having men in the
>police isnt promoting homosexuality isit?
Of course not.
> Or having male primary school
>teachers or nurses isnt promoting them being gay is it?
Male nurses are suspect. It's possible they went to nursing school
to meet a lot of women. But they must have known many guys would think
they were homo.
>
>So when the marriage breaks up and as you say the women should mind the kids
>in the house how do you suppose the man is going to live ther when the
>parents dont get on and the children have to be there with the mother? If
>they agree to get on thenm the marriage hasnt broken up has it?
We should try to stop divorces. But if that doesn't work we could
build condos for the women and children.
>
>>>
>>>But why should a puny man be better than an athletic woman at such a job?
>>
>> There are always plenty of better men than any athletic female.
>
>You really dont understand logic do you? I didnt ask about the majority of
>bigger men. I asked about the men who are smaller then women who can do a
>better job!
Men who are smaller than women should not be police.
>
>Why should a puny man be better than an athletic woman at such a job?
Neither puny men nor women should be police.
>>
>> Maybe women and minorities think everything is wonderful. But White
>> men should be of the opinion that this system needs to go down by any
>> means necessary.
>
>Maybe you should look up what a BIGOT is. You have no support have you?
>
Affirmative action
>
>Oh but they are! They oppose emigration and all teh sort of thing Le Pen's
>Front National in France does and Heider's Freedom Party in Austria does.
>and the French and Austrians work with them and sit with them in the EU
>assembly.
>
>>
>> I don't watch the Jewish controlled TV but no doubt they must have
>> said bombing Muslims is good because Muslims are sexists.
>
>But to you ALL TV is jewish controlled! Anyway TV isnt a really hight level
>source is it? But you admit yo dont have ANY support again.
>
The USA is feminist and it is no coincidence they are invading
countries that are not.
>>>So chess is a big thing with men. so are caRS. YOU DONT SEE AMNY WOMEN
>>>RACING DRIVERS EITHER!
>>
>> Then their brains must in some way be different right?
>
>Your continual fallacies never cease to surpries me.
>
>Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a
> charm.
> Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.
>Homer: Thank you, dear.
> Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
>Homer: Oh, how does it work?
> Lisa: It doesn't work.
>Homer: Uh-huh.
> Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
>Homer: Uh-huh.
> Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
> [Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
>Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
> [Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]
>
>>
>>>why are most biologist women?
>>
>> Who said they were.
>
>I did. Just there?
>
>But I wont press it enen though I believe it to be right and it is in my
>country. As for the US I should have stated "social scientists".
"Social Scientists" probably doing nothing other than politically
correct nonsense.
>>