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Author: Peter Alaca
Date: Aug 10, 2006 13:12

I found an interesting picture of a child birth.
http://tinyurl.com/pv2gj (uploaded to Flickr)
It is a woodcut from a book with the title
"Seelenwurzgarten" (or "Der Seelen Wurzgarten"),
published in 1496 in Augsburg, Germany, by
Johann Schönsperger.
I have no details of the picture itself.

It looks as if the delivery is done by way of a
caesarean, but it is striking that there are no
instruments in sight. So I wonder wether this
is realy a caesarean or rather a 'decent' depiction
of a normal birth.
How are medieval deliveries usually depicted,
if they are?

--
p.a.
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Re: Medieval caesarean?         


Author: Warren B. Hapke
Date: Aug 10, 2006 22:14

Peter Alaca wrote:
: I found an interesting picture of a child birth.
: http://tinyurl.com/pv2gj (uploaded to Flickr)
: It is a woodcut from a book with the title
: "Seelenwurzgarten" (or "Der Seelen Wurzgarten"),
: published in 1496 in Augsburg, Germany, by
: Johann Sch?nsperger.
: I have no details of the picture itself.

: It looks as if the delivery is done by way of a
: caesarean, but it is striking that there are no
: instruments in sight. So I wonder wether this
: is realy a caesarean or rather a 'decent' depiction
: of a normal birth.
: How are medieval deliveries usually depicted,
: if they are?

: --
: p.a.

There is a good history of Cesarean sections available online at:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/cesarean/cesarean_1.html.
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Re: Medieval caesarean?         


Author: Paul J Gans
Date: Aug 10, 2006 23:06

Peter Alaca wrote:
>I found an interesting picture of a child birth.
>http://tinyurl.com/pv2gj (uploaded to Flickr)
>It is a woodcut from a book with the title
>"Seelenwurzgarten" (or "Der Seelen Wurzgarten"),
>published in 1496 in Augsburg, Germany, by
>Johann Sch?nsperger.
>I have no details of the picture itself.
>It looks as if the delivery is done by way of a
>caesarean, but it is striking that there are no
>instruments in sight. So I wonder wether this
>is realy a caesarean or rather a 'decent' depiction
>of a normal birth.
>How are medieval deliveries usually depicted,
>if they are?

Caesarians were known. Caesar was reportedly
born that way.
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Re: Medieval caesarean?         


Author: Eric Stevens
Date: Aug 10, 2006 23:18

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:12:54 +0200, "Peter Alaca"
wrote:
>I found an interesting picture of a child birth.
>http://tinyurl.com/pv2gj (uploaded to Flickr)
>It is a woodcut from a book with the title
>"Seelenwurzgarten" (or "Der Seelen Wurzgarten"),
>published in 1496 in Augsburg, Germany, by
>Johann Schönsperger.
>I have no details of the picture itself.

Hmm - the mother looks slightly disinterested in a glum kind of way.
>
>It looks as if the delivery is done by way of a
>caesarean, but it is striking that there are no
>instruments in sight. So I wonder wether this
>is realy a caesarean or rather a 'decent' depiction
>of a normal birth.
>How are medieval deliveries usually depicted,
>if they are?
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Re: Medieval caesarean?         


Author: Peter Alaca
Date: Aug 10, 2006 23:32

Warren B. Hapke wrote: news:ebg42c$9qn$1@wildfire.prairienet.org
> Peter Alaca wrote:
>> I found an interesting picture of a child birth.
>> http://tinyurl.com/pv2gj (uploaded to Flickr)
>> It is a woodcut from a book with the title
>> "Seelenwurzgarten"...
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Re: Medieval caesarean?         


Author: Peter Alaca
Date: Aug 10, 2006 23:42

Eric Stevens wrote: news:he8nd2lh6438b988ule921rsh2ks200a9p@4ax.com
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:12:54 +0200, "Peter Alaca"
> wrote:
>
>> I found an interesting picture of a child birth.
>> http://tinyurl.com/pv2gj (uploaded to Flickr)
>> It is a woodcut from a book with the title
>> "Seelenwurzgarten" (or "Der Seelen Wurzgarten"),
>> published in 1496 in Augsburg, Germany, by
>> Johann Schönsperger.
>> I have no details of the picture itself.
>
> Hmm - the mother looks slightly disinterested in a glum kind of way.

I love the illustrations from the 14th and 15th c.
They often appear very comical to me, perhaps
because they are so naive.
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Re: Medieval caesarean?         


Author: Eric Stevens
Date: Aug 11, 2006 01:08

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:42:53 +0200, "Peter Alaca"
wrote:
>Eric Stevens wrote: news:he8nd2lh6438b988ule921rsh2ks200a9p@4ax.com
>
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:12:54 +0200, "Peter Alaca"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I found an interesting picture of a child birth...
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