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Este patético paleto es el más digno ejemplo del catetismo provinciano
catalán.

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]]> Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:11:00 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/see_who_is_whining_re_huffington_post_goes_all_out_175323220t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/see_who_is_whining_re_huffington_post_goes_all_out_175323220t.html panix.com (lo yeeOn) wrote:
> In article flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> Marinus van der Lubbe   wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Mike Laight wrote:
> >> Do you think this Rezko stuff is news?  The case has been over for
> >> months and even the Republican federal prosecutor said that NOTHING
> >> implicated BO in any wrong doing.
>
> >> How many more times do you plan on pulling out this same non-news?
>
> >> Mike
>
> >> "527_blue_collar_worker" hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >It's creepy. Am I the only who thinks people like 527 are being paid to
> >spread disinformation that somehow has missed people who don't own a TV
> >or listen to commercial radio?
>
> Nope!  As far as the poster who has variedly assumed the netnames
>
>  GeraldCNew...@hotmail.com,
>  Clifford,
>  BlueCollarWorker, BlueCollarElectrician, ...
>  numbers_guy,
>  527, ... etc,
>
> who has been posting dozens of attack messages on Obama daily since
> April this year is concerned, I have expressed my suspicion.
>
> What he has been doing in this and related newsgroups is abnormal for
> an individual poster, whatever his or her viewpoints might be.  He has
> to have been working for some entity.  And from those messages that I
> have read, he revealed:
>
> 1) He does "4-6 hours of research daily" for his postings.
>
> 2) He said (to someone who asked him to tell about something) in a
>    heated moment: `"I don't work for free kookieboy.  You will have to
>    pay the regular rate: $250/hr." (See (A) below.)
>
> 3) He made ``emergency'' broadcast in the newsgroup (4 May 2008)
>    saying:
>
>    "I'm in the process of fleshing this out, but it's big news that
>     the MSM isn't understanding fully, and I wanted to put it on
>     people's radar a.s.a.p. The Clinton camp called a press conference
>     tonight, which I attended telephonically, to accuse the Obama
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     Texas campaign of "statewide systemic" abuses of the caucus
>     process. They've "lawyered up" -- had a lawyer on the call -- and
>     are expressly keeping open the possibility of legally contesting
>     the Texas caucuses long into the future."
>
>     (See (B) below.)
>
> And naturally, Obama's ascension is a huge concern to the neocon war
> lobby because of Obama's view on the occupation war in Iraq and his
> ``soft'' view on Iran whereas both McCain and Hillary Clinton have
> both been vetted in this regard.  And the function for a neocon shill
> before the end of the Democratic party primary run was to coordinate
> his messages with the Clinton campaign messages, now it is more free,
> just anything that could topple Obama and allow McCain in is a better
> alternative for the neocon war lobby.
>
> And this is how the ``Gerald C. Newton'' guy has fitted into the
> neocon scheme.
>
> lo yeeOn
> ========
>
> (A) My previous post which captures GeraldCNew...@hotmail.com claiming
>     "I don't work for free kookieboy.  You will have to pay the
>     regular rate: $250/hr"
>
> Subject: Hillary has faltered because her politics is fundamentally flawed Re: How Hillary Clinton is getting screwed by the media and the DNC!
> Summary:
> Expires:
> References: <7693b9c7-3a28-4e87-b049-c5d6d3cd1...@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <3a3dfbad-1115-414f-8c01-8ff717bcf...@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <6e8a7809-5f6b-443c-ad66-02de237b6...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <85edd47a-aa4d-4437-95ad-6c90256b8...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>
> Sender:
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> Keywords:
> Cc:
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> In article <85edd47a-aa4d-4437-95ad-6c90256b8...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> numbers_guy  hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 27, 2:23 pm, fargo116 yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> . . .
>
>
>
>
>
> >> > > S. Olson- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > By the way Fargo, Google does those stats (you know the one's you like
> >> > to post as if you are somehow the assumed kook overlord of these
> >> > groups) on this group and they do not match yours at all.  All your
> >> > tedious work is done for you and you didn't know that.  Now be a nice
> >> > little boy, and I will tell you how to find the stats
>
> >> Well, tell us Festus. It wouldn't be 'five' would it?
>
> >> S. Olson- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >I don't work for free kookieboy.  You will have to pay the regular
> >rate: $250/hr.
>
> OK!  Now you admitted you're doing all these insane postings for
> money.
>
> As to who you're working for, we needn't go far to find out.  In
> another follow-up of yours in the same thread, you said:
>
>  >> Hillary Clinton should run as an independent, and she could beat
>  >> both Obama and McCain.
>
> As I have repeatedly said, despite others who thought you were working
> fore the republicans, you are Hillary's paid shill.  (Initially, you
> were trying to pretend, although doing a poor job of it, that you
> were not doing it for Hillary when I pointed it out.  But now you have
> dropped you figleaf even, perhaps because of fatigue just like Hillary
> herself, eh?)
>
> You've at least admitted in the past that you were doing ``4-6 hours
> of research daily'' to give you the ammunition for dozens and dozens
> repetitive propaganda pieces you posted everyday, ever since Hillary
> was going downhill.  But then you still claimed that you were not a
> ``Hillary shill'', which was of course unbelievable.
>
> (And let's see: $250/hr and 4-6 hours daily make 10 to 15 thousand
> dollars a day and thirty thousand dollars a month.  Mercenary kind of
> work and pay, I see . . ..)
>
> I don't care what you call yourself, but you have been posting for the
> very specific purpose of spreading lies and fear for the benefit of
> Hillary's faltering campaign.
>
> You have repeatedly bandied about the caucus argument against Obama,
> long before the mainstream press mentioned (and therefore confirmed)
> it as a Hillary campaign argument to diminish Obama's leading
> position.
>
> Of course, you were relentlessly pursuing the by-now famous Hillary
> strategy of exploiting the impoverished southern white Americans.
>
> And amidst countless other deceptions and smears, you started talking
> about the likelihood that Hillary might make a run as an independent
> if she doesn't like what she sees, comes the end of the primary
> season.
>
> This talk was offered amidst Hillary's contention that her pestilent
> stay in the race would not hurt the party's prospect in Novemeber,
> despite all the contrary evidence.
>
> What Hillary means is that
>
>  a) hopefully ``I would be the nominee and I would have Obama as my
>     runningmate'' or if not, then
>
>  b) ``Obama would pick me as his runningmate, so either way we'll be a
>     unified party''.
>
> So, it is clear to me that just as the caucus argument which you've
> been bandying around for a while, this argument that Hillary would
> bolt and run as an independent is also a strategy decision coming down
> from the campaign hierarchy.  And the intended audience of all this
> talk are at least partly intended for the superdelegates.
>
> Essentially, the Hillary campaign wants to scare the party into
> submission.
>
> It hopes that the powers-that-be will force it upon Obama to accept
> Hillary as his VP to keep her from bolting.  It wants the party to
> repeat the JFK/LBJ marriage of convenience, despite the known tragic
> result.
>
> I don't know if Obama would be so stupid as not to see the danger to
> his life with Hillary always feeling ``ready to succeed him from day
> one''.  If Hillary was presenting the RFK assassination scenerio as a
> rationale for the party to let her stay and be ready to take the helm,
> she was clearly also telling her less scrupulous supporters among the
> neocons to come up with something after the election, if not before,
> to make her the chief.
>
> But the Democratic party might be worrying too much.  If it keeps its
> cool, the Obama ticket will be a winner.
>
> The party actually does not need to fear the Hillary threat because
> of Bob Barr's run as a libertarian party nominee.
>
> Hillary will not get her ``working Americans, hard-working Americans,
> hard-working white Americans'' voting for her in the general election
> when they have McCain and Bob Barr to choose from.
>
> For her beloved constituents from the south, the white woman was just
> a stand-in for the next white man to come along.
>
> Hillary isn't gonna have too many women voting for her in the fall as
> an independent either, just as she couldn't win the party's nomination
> with the women's vote.
>
> She could not because of a few simple reasons.  People who can think
> just a bit are suspicious of anti-war credential.  People are wary of
> her tie to corporate interests and the neocon lobby.  People are weary
> of the dire economy facing down on America, a problem which is clearly
> caused by our unending foreign occupation-wars and which would only
> get worse with time.  People are weary of Hillary's indecent disregard
> for the truth and truthfulness.
>
> And anyone who can see that occupation of Iraq is not going to get
> easier will see that the war will loom large in the fall, just as ABC
> News's Sam Donaldson also believes.
>
> And there is no sound argument to a marriage-of-convenience ticket in
> the two.  Hillary belongs to the past while Obama to the future.
>
> The past and the future are not characterized by whether a woman or a
> black man can get hired for America's top job.  The past and the
> future are separated by what interests the person who will get that
> top job finds him- or herself beholden to.
>
> Hillary is beholden to the status quo, the corporate interests, and
> the war-driven neocons.  Obama is propelled by the grassroots, the
> anti-war movement, and people's power.
>
> The Democratic party can choose to belong to the past by resorting to
> the same old tired politics of forcing its will on its members as well
> as its supporters at the polls at large.  It can do so by cynically
> fixing a political marriage of convenience, forcing obama's supporters
> to buy the damaged good in Hillary Clinton.  Or it can let the process
> take its natural and therefore democratic course.  If they choose
> cynicism over democracy, they will at least turn off some people like
> myself.
>
> Why I will not vote for an Obama-Hillary ticket?  1) I don't want
> Obama to get assassinated.  2) I don't want someone who threatens
> other nations with ``total obliteration'' to be near our nuclear
> arsenal.  And 3) I don't want the dynastic tendency to continue.
>
> In the particular case of the Clintons, they are simply too indecent
> to be let back in.
>
> lo yeeOn
> ========
>
> Courtesy of valino...@gmail.com Tue May 27 22:57:05 EDT 2008]
>
> Hillary's Hostage Crisis
>
> By RJ Eskow
>
> Created May 23 2008 - 10:00am
>
> Hillary's rhetoric of the past 24 hours has gone from conciliatory to
> cataclysmic, turning on a high-speed dime like some UFO over the Florida
> swamps. An awful [1]lot [2]of [3]Democrats [4]are shocked and outraged at
> her use of civil rights rhetoric over the primary dispute, especially after
> winning two primaries with the help of some white voters who admitted their
> choice was influenced by race.1
>
> Some are suggesting a personality shift explains the change of tone, but
> she's cooler and smarter than that. It's more likely that this sudden
> transformation is premeditated, brought on by a simpler and more ruthless
> motive: She's demonstrating to Obama and the superdelegates what she's
> capable of doing if she's crossed.
>
> Think about it: She's showing that she is willing to ignite a firestorm,
> amplify the misguided rage of her supporters, and split the party in two if
> her demands are not met. She no longer expects to get the nomination. She
> has another list of demands, which might include the vice presidency but
> definitely involve high-level appointments for herself and/or her
> supporters. She spent a couple of days showing how good she can be for the
> party. Now, the purpose of her recent comments has been to show how much
> damage she can do.
>
> And she can do a lot. Many of her supporters remain convinced that not
> counting the Florida and Michigan votes (that is, honoring the pledge she
> and others signed) is some sort of disenfranchisement. She's made it clear
> she will push that argument until she has what she wants.
>
> She's also making it clear she can keep the racial issue on the
> front-burner. What was most outrageous about her now-infamous WaPo interview
> [5] wasn't her claim of media sexism, which undoubtedly exists. It wasn't
> even her claim that she's losing because of bias -- despite the fact that
> she was once the odds-on favorite and was a woman then, too. More outrageous
> was her claim that there has been no racism in this campaign -- this from a
> candidate whose last two victories came from white voters who, by 20%% and
> 25%% respectively, acknowledged that race played an important role in their
> choice.
>
> What does that kind of talk accomplish? It inflames her supporters' mistaken
> belief that she's been unjustly robbed, while at the same time dismissing
> the idea that both nominees had hurdles to overcome. The ongoing rage of
> Hillary supporters is her best bargaining chip. It's the dynamite she can
> use to blow up the party.
>
> And speaking of racial: Was it just coincidental that she invoked Zimbabwe,
> of all places, in describing the Florida election? And not just Zimbabwe,
> but the President of Zimbabwe: "the president lost, they refused to abide by
> the will of the people." Nice. The President of Zimbabwe is, of course, a
> scary and possibly corrupt black man. (No subliminal racial message there,
> of course; it's just one of the ongoing series of "accidental" inferences
> the Clintons keep innocently making.)
>
> She knows these arguments won't sway the superdelegates to give her the
> nomination. What she's doing now is showing the Obama team and the Party's
> leaders that she has it in her power to cost them the election in November.
> Her surrogates are busy doing the same thing: "undermining the legitimacy of
> the Democratic nominee," as Scott Lemieux [6] puts it.
>
> It's a hostage crisis. She's showing that she'll destroy the party if
> necessary, even if it means destroying her own political future. She wasn't
> having a personality crisis when she switched from nice to mean yesterday:
> She was showing everybody the detonator in her hand. It was a Dog Day
> Afternoon moment, with Hillary as Al Pacino -- walking back and forth,
> smiling and nodding her head and saying "See what I can do? Still want to
> write me off?"
>
> She didn't think Florida and Michigan were "rights" issues when she signed
> that pledge -- not until it was in her self-interest to do so. But a lot of
> her supporters either don't know that or don't care, and she knows it. She
> knows that a certain percentage of Democrats will chant along with her when
> she and her supporters start saying "Count the votes! Count the votes!"
>
> What a moment that will be. Like "Attica State! Attica State!" but with a
> less sympathetic character leading the charge.
>
> ___________________
>
> 1Don't believe race is a factor in this campaign? Watch this video [7] about
> Kentucky - then ponder why no American news outlet bothered to interview
> these voters.
>
> RJ Eskow blogs:
> Night Light [8]
> The Sentinel Effect: Healthcare Blog [9]
>
> ============================================================
>
> (B) GeraldCNewton broadcast urgent telephone briefing from the Clinton
>     campaign
>
> From GeraldCNew...@hotmail.com Sun May  4 22:16:20 EDT 2008
> Article: 807530 of alt.impeach.bush
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> Subject: Clinton Claiming Widespread Fraud By Obama, Ramping Up Legal War To
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>
> I'm in the process of fleshing this out, but it's big news that the
> MSM isn't understanding fully, and I wanted to put it on people's
> radar a.s.a.p. The Clinton camp called a press conference tonight,
> which I attended telephonically, to accuse the Obama Texas campaign of
> "statewide systemic" abuses of the caucus process. They've "lawyered
> up" -- had a lawyer on the call -- and are expressly keeping open the
> possibility of legally contesting the Texas caucuses long into the
> future.
>
> Among other things, they claim that Obama supporters have stolen
> caucus materials and chairs needed by Clinton supporters, "taking
> control" of caucus sites, and locking out "long lines" of Clinton
> supporters to ensure the caucuses go Obama's way. They also confirmed
> that they will press their Convention delegates to insist that the
> Florida and Michigan delegations be seated at the DNC convention in
> August, WITHOUT the revotes that everyone besides the Clintonites are
> urging as a fair way to honor those voters without being unfair to
> candidates (Obama's name didn't even appear on the Michigan ballot,
> but Clinton wants those pro-Clinton-by-default delegates seated
> anyway).
>
> Buzz up!on Yahoo!It was just a few hours ago, but I did predict this
> exact scenario unfolding before all these claims of scurrilous
> behavior slammed into the media machine like the Galveston Hurricane
> of 1900:
>
> The Clinton camp seems intent on building a "record" of supposed
> campaign violations in Texas, which is critical to them and which
> they're very afraid they'll lose, so that they can file a lawsuit
> challenging the results and then use that as an excuse to stay in the
> race even though it hurts the party ("we can't drop out now, we don't
> even know how the courts will rule in Texas").
>
> from:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/clinton-claiming-widespre_...- Hide quoted text -
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]]> Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:56:41 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/el_cerdo_comunista_de_nicaragua_175313748t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/el_cerdo_comunista_de_nicaragua_175313748t.html El progreso de la acción de mi agresor, fue dándose; ya no solamente se
trataba de su observación a mi cuerpo cuando me bañaba, sino que entraba al
baño de cualquier manera, se masturbaba provocándome miedo y desprecio. Fue
horrible ver, a la edad de entonces, la imagen de un hombre de pie sostenido
de una pared y sacudiendo su sexo como perdido e inconsciente de sí mismo.
Yo tenía miedo y permanecía en el baño hasta ver desaparecer su sombra por
la rendija de la puerta que él mismo mantenía abierta. Me daba miedo ir a
cerrar la puerta, pues podría aprovechar para apresarme. Preferí mantener
distancia física de aquel cuadro que me producía asco y rechazo.

TEXTO COMPLETO EN http://www.sandino.org/zoila.htm

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]]> Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:48:22 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/del_ilustre_y_genial_catal0n_albert_boadella_175270228t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/del_ilustre_y_genial_catal0n_albert_boadella_175270228t.html http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=lzi1lllT3I0

Barça:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=VFzRpbScRyY

Presentación del libro Adios Cataluña

1/3
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqn6Y89pyD4

2/3
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=8EXjLamswvc&feature=related

3/3
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=CQXGzOT_lcI&feature=related


Purgandus populus:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=P70x5l9E--8

La compañía:

http://www.elsjoglars.com/cast/framesetcast.htm

--
Mosqui

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]]> Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:34:46 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/quesadillas_mexico_s_fun_take_on_grilled_cheese_sa_175252052t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/quesadillas_mexico_s_fun_take_on_grilled_cheese_sa_175252052t.html Grilled cheese, Mexican style

By Carole Kotkin | McClatchy Newspapers
July 23, 2008
Chicago Tribune, United States -

Quesadillas, Mexico's fun take on grilled cheese sandwiches, can be as
simple or sophisticated as you want.

The basic quesadilla is nothing more than cheese wrapped in a tortilla
and then heated until melted inside and crispy on the outside.

Add flavor, texture and nutrition with any number of ingredients:
grilled chicken, fish, skirt steak, shrimp or lobster; avocado or
guacamole; cooked or refried beans; corn, caramelized onions or
tomatoes. Monterey Jack and Cheddar are standard, but also consider
goat cheese, mascarpone, manchego or brie.

Assembly is easy: Lay the tortilla flat, place the filling on one half
and fold the other half over it. Press lightly to seal. Cook 4 or 5
minutes per side over medium heat in a skillet or 1 to 2 minutes per
side on a grill over indirect heat.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/chi-quesadilla-23jul23,0,3526507.sto...

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]]> Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:33:01 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/mexican_rock_band_mana_backs_obama_175246676t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/mexican_rock_band_mana_backs_obama_175246676t.html Mexican rock band Mana is backing Barack Obama, saying a Democrat in
the White House would be better for Mexicans on both sides of the
border. ...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008066760_apmanaobama.html

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]]> Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:03:13 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/millonarios_de_u_s_a_est2n_en_gran_peligro_175227732t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/millonarios_de_u_s_a_est2n_en_gran_peligro_175227732t.html actividades y operaciones secretas de los gringos.

Barack Hussein Obama, tal como su nombre lo delata, es un falso
cristiano, él es musulman del Islam y además es "socialista"
izquierdozo:

Con Obama, la caída de EE.UU. al SOCIALISMO está asegurada. Los
gringos millonarios, multimillonarios, magnates billonarios y todo
rico de USA, tienen sus días contados. Incluída la familia ROCKEFELLER
y la familia de Bill Gates, los Bush, Carlos Slim de Mexico, etc...

Esas fortunas pasarán a manos de comunistas ateos mal llamados
socialistas, las muertes de estos ricos gringos o yankees se hará de
manera discreta, sigilosa y discreta, tal como se hizo por toda la
actual EUROPA (o UNION DE REPUBLICAS SOCIALISTAS EUROPEAS - U.E.).
Esta clase de genocidio silencioso también se sigue ejecutando por
toda AMERICA CENTRAL, Sur America, Mexico, el Caribe, etc... hasta la
misma INGLATERRA ha caído en poder del SOCIALISMO INTERNACIONAL.

Entérense:
http://mipagina.univision.com/alien777

Recuerden visitar con frecuencia el siguiente enlace donde hallaran
informacion secreta jamas revelada:
http://groups.google.com/group/religion-politica/topics

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Rosa Díez ha remitido al presidente del Gobierno, José Luís Rodríguez Zapatero, el Manifiesto por
una Lengua Común, y una carta en la que le invita a leerlo para que no vuelva a hablar sobre este
documento "de oídas". No obstante no se muestra muy esperanzada, después de que Zapatero haya
defendido la discriminación de los que hablan castellano. El presidente llegó a abogar incluso por
que se multe a los que rotulan en la lengua oficial del Estado.

Según explica a través de una nota de prensa, la diputada de Unión Progreso y Democracia (UPyD) en
el Congreso, decidió enviar al jefe del Ejecutivo un ejemplar del texto en favor de la lengua común
tras escucharle decir que "firmaría un manifiesto que defendiera el castellano y el resto de las
lenguas". En opinión de Díez, estas palabras denotan una "falta de rigor" por Zapatero provocada,
probablemente porque "habla de oídas y no ha leído el manifiesto". "Si lo lee detenidamente, es
posible que encuentre argumentos para estar en contra del mismo, los nacionalistas lo están, y
quienes no creen en el bilingüismo también", agrega Díez.

En su misiva, Díez muestra su preocupación por que Zapatero haya reproducido las opiniones sobre el
manifiesto que ya han realizado otros miembros del Gobierno o dirigentes del PSOE. "Escucharlas en
boca del presidente es aún más preocupante ya que, al fin y al cabo, es el presidente del Gobierno y
tiene el deber de dar argumentos en vez de pronunciar eslóganes", asegura.

Aún así confiesa que no le sorprende que Zapatero esté en contra de los postulados del documento,
habida cuenta de que, según dice, el jefe del Ejecutivo ya se había mostrado "contrario a reconocer
la discriminación que sufren miles de familias españolas que no pueden elegir la que es lengua
oficial en toda España para educar a sus hijos en determinadas Comunidades Autónomas o la que
soportan miles de españoles para acceder a puestos de la Administración que requieren para su normal
desenvolvimiento el conocimiento de la lengua cooficial".

"Si me he atrevido a dirigirme a usted, utilizando el correo certificado, --aduce-- es porque
quisiera mantener la esperanza en que la falta de rigor de sus palabras se debe únicamente a su
desconocimiento; esto es, que se pronuncia de oídas sobre el Manifiesto por la Lengua común". En
cualquier caso, Rosa Díez confía en que, tras su lectura, Zapatero no vuelva a cometer la ligereza
de pronunciarse públicamente sobre sus contenidos utilizando "frases tan solemnes como huecas y tan
alejadas de la realidad".



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]]> Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:23:36 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/selling_of_one_live_organ_to_another_person_175218772t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/soc.culture.spain/selling_of_one_live_organ_to_another_person_175218772t.html What I could say is that they could exchange their organ for money
which would in the other way to say affect their health in their later
life du to the lack of personal body organs. The word of saying being
a great donar to save life is just to say so. What is true to the fact
that the money arned from donating you own life organ could be more.
Law should kick in to prevent such pratices as thi mean that money is
more important than life issue....

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