On Apr 8, 8:13 pm, bob young
netvigator.com> wrote:>> On Apr 7, 12:12 pm, Tweety
bluewater.net> wrote:>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:29:50 GMT, b...@
b.com (Polar Bear) wrote:
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>>>>Now I wonder if Rev kang and ppl running City Harvest will go to heaven.
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>>> Of course they will go to heaven....BTW way where is heaven and wat do you do in
>>> heaven?
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>>> Are you sure you wanna go to heaven?
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>>>>On 6 Apr 2007 01:55:16 -0700, Singaporeanspe...@
yahoo.com wrote:
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>>>>>On Apr 6, 9:45 am, "James"
hotmail.com> wrote:>>>>>> On Apr 5, 8:05 pm, b...@
b.com (Polar Bear) wrote:
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>>>>>>> They are clever, smart but not wise.
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>>>>>>> Luke 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
>>>>>>> than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God."
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>>>>>>> On 5 Apr 2007 18:03:18 -0700, Singaporeanspe...@
yahoo.com wrote:
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>>>>>>>>Dear all,
>>>>>>>>Why do people greed for more wealth? They do because they do not know
>>>>>>>>that truth of God of His 10th commandment:"Thou shall not covet" -
>>>>>>>>Exodus 20:17 reading fully as follows:
>>>>>>>>Exo 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not
>>>>>>>>covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant,
>>>>>>>>nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's.
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>>>>>>>>The people that are easily inveigled into greed for more wealth are
>>>>>>>>those that are unjust. The UNJUST have no qualm about how they obtain
>>>>>>>>their wealth given the fact that avarice is an attribute of the
>>>>>>>>unjust. Thus, Satan can easily manipulate them to become avaricious in
>>>>>>>>all their works speaking daily to them how to work unjustly for more
>>>>>>>>wealth.
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>>>>>>>>In this world, God speak to all to do justly and Satan unjustly; but
>>>>>>>>unfortunately, many do not believe in God being sceptical and
>>>>>>>>consequently unable to learn from Jesus to do justly in the sight of
>>>>>>>>God.
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>>>>>>>>Nevertheless, today, I bring to the unbelievers good news that God is
>>>>>>>>real; and if you want proofs that God exist, go and watch SVC program
>>>>>>>>"A Haunting" every wednesday and saturday 10pm on channel 12 and you
>>>>>>>>will see that devils=demons=evil spirits=fallen angels were cast out
>>>>>>>>of the houses they inhabited by owners using the Power in the Name of
>>>>>>>>JESUS, and in the Name of God-the Father, God-the Son, Jesus and God-
>>>>>>>>the Holy Ghost.
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>>>>>>>>Jesus says there is power in His Name as mentioned in the book of the
>>>>>>>>book of Mark reading as follows:
>>>>>>>>Mark 16:17 " And these signs shall follow them that believe; IN MY
>>>>>>>>NAME shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;".
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>>>>>>>>In Christ Jesus,
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>>>>>> Wouldn't be a kick in the head if you are poor all your life, die,
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>>>>>Dear James,
>>>>>You wrote to Polar Bear reflecting your fear of no heaven:
>>>>>"Wouldn't be a kick in the head if you are poor all your life, die,
>>>>>only to find out there is no heaven?".
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>>>>>My reply:
>>>>>With God, there is no "what if there is no heaven after death"; for
>>>>>the bible clearly tells us the new earth and new heaven that is to
>>>>>come.
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>>>>>So what if you die, and find out that you end up in hell like the Rich
>>>>>Man - mentioned in the bible of the book of Luke 16:19-31- who asked
>>>>>to be allowed to go back to earth to tell his 5 brothers about the
>>>>>reality of hell so that they did not have to suffer the torment of
>>>>>hell; but was not allowed to, since while living on earth one was
>>>>>often informed by prophets and Christians that one needed to believe
>>>>>that God has instituted Law of God teaching all how to live
>>>>>righteously on earth in order to pass unto the New Earth and the New
>>>>>Heaven when one dies,?
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>>>>>Supporting biblical proof as follows:
>>>>>Luk 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple
>>>>>and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
>>>>>Luk 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was
>>>>>laid at his gate, full of sores,
>>>>>Luk 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the
>>>>>rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
>>>>>Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried
>>>>>by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was
>>>>>buried;
>>>>>Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and
>>>>>seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
>>>>>Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me,
>>>>>and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and
>>>>>cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
>>>>>Luk 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime
>>>>>receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now
>>>>>he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
>>>>>Luk 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great
>>>>>gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot;
>>>>>neither can they pass to us, that [would come] from thence.
>>>>>Luk 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou
>>>>>wouldest send him to my father's house:
>>>>>Luk 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them,
>>>>>lest they also come into this place of torment.
>>>>>Luk 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets;
>>>>>let them hear them.
>>>>>Luk 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them
>>>>>from the dead, they will repent.
>>>>>Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the
>>>>>prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the
>>>>>dead.
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>>>>>Read this again for proof of heaven:
>>>>>Nevertheless, today, I bring to the unbelievers good news that God is
>>>>>real; and if you want proofs that God exist, go and watch SVC program
>>>>>"A Haunting" every wednesday and saturday 10pm on channel 12 and you
>>>>>will see that devils=demons=evil spirits=fallen angels were cast out
>>>>>of the houses they inhabited by owners using the Power in the Name of
>>>>>JESUS, and in the Name of God-the Father, God-the Son, Jesus and God-
>>>>>the Holy Ghost.
>>>>>Jesus says there is power in His Name as mentioned in the book of the
>>>>>book of Mark reading as follows:
>>>>>Mark 16:17 " And these signs shall follow them that believe; IN MY
>>>>>NAME shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;".
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>>>>>In Christ Jesus,
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>> Dear tweety,
>> God say in the bible of the book of James as follows:
>> "James 1:19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to
>> hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:".
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> No god says anything in the bible, it was written 'by humans' 'for humans' period.
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Dear all,
No avaricious person will say that God say anything in the bible; for
then,
accordingly to the bible, all avaricious persons will have to repent
of their sin
of coveteousness by giving all the wealth they ill- gotten to the
poor, the sick
and the elderly!
That is why all coveteous people tell lies to bluff themselves telling
all that there is
no God so that they will not have nightmare in the night and 'daymare'
in the day, but God is not deceived!
Why deceive yourself, read the following for the truth of God:
I elaborate herewith:
Wicked(from greek word 'poneros' which means ill=disease of morality
degeneracy from original virtue) people traduce through
mispresentation of the truth of God, not willed by themselves but
unknown to them,
they are deceived by Satan, the Son of perdition, who influences such
wicked people to lie without them knowing that they have become
unrighteous working the unrighteousness of Satan.
2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 speaks of the wicked people who are deceived
and they are lying for Satan; and God allow them so; for God send to
these wicked people a strong delusion that these wicked people
believe
their own lies unto damnation for themselves.
Accordingly to 2 Thessalonions 2:7-12, these evil people are lying
themselves unto damnation into the Lake of fire.
2 Thessalonions 2:1-12 reading as follows:
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord
Jesus
Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither
by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of
Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not
come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called
God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple
of
God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you
these things?
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed
in
his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who
now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall
consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the
brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with
all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that
perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they
might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that
they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth,
but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you,
brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning
chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and
belief of the truth:
2Th 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of
the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Th 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions
which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
2Th 2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our
Father,
which hath loved us, and hath given [us] everlasting consolation and
good hope through grace,
2Th 2:17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word
and
work.
In Christ Jesus,
Amen.
