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Author: YuYu Date: Mar 25, 2008 01:56
http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,23423457-5006550,00.html
WHICH country's interests are best served by an uprising in Tibet on
the eve of the Beijing Olympics?
The USA's, of course.
The Bush administration has long been frightened of China's burgeoning
rival superpower status, and US stoking of the Tibetan fires to
provide maximum international embarrassment to China cannot be ruled
out.
Tibet is a cause celebre for the Hollywood glitterati, pop stars and
celebrity politicians. They imagine it to be some sort of wondrous
Shangri-la led by a beacon of peace and light, the Dalai Lama. The
vast majority of the Western media is in love with the Dalai Lama and
the Free Tibet movement. In fact, so blinkered are the Free Tibet and
I-love-the-Dalai-Lama types that they will line up with their No. 1
enemy, the Bush administration, to throw darts at China for seeking to
restore order in a land that China has occupied since 1951.
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Author: TobyToby Date: Mar 25, 2008 04:43
Of course the US will use whatever it has at its disposal to derail China's
rise to power, but that doesn't mean that the Tibetans don't have real
grievances against Chinese rule. The CIA wouldn't have a foothold otherwise.
"Yu" yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:feb50d1f-3e22-47bf-9c88-b993b75343c8@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
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Author: nidayniday Date: Mar 25, 2008 05:05
On 25 Mar 2008 06:43:02 -0500, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
>Of course the US will use whatever it has at its disposal to derail China's
>rise to power, but that doesn't mean that the Tibetans don't have real
>grievances against Chinese rule. The CIA wouldn't have a foothold otherwise.
What is this "Tibetan grievance" other than the Lama-desire to
dominate and rule the Tibetan people as their slaves again?
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Author: YuYu Date: Mar 25, 2008 05:39
On Mar 25, 7:43 pm, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
> Of course the US will use whatever it has at its disposal to derail China's
> rise to power, but that doesn't mean that the Tibetans don't have real
> grievances against Chinese rule. The CIA wouldn't have a foothold otherwise.
>
Of course u r right. Even husband and wife quarrell.
There are however ways to make the fight more bloody eg having a radio
free asia broadcasting to Tibet and inciting hatred. Since the
begining of violence RFA has now provide round the clock service. The
normally had 8 hours daily program. Money is also very useful in
hiring thugs to beat up people. I ve mention in my other posts that
CIA love to use criminals in their target region. Criminals provide
important organization net work and they are also good at evading
police survalence. Also they kill people for money.
The good people with a grivence may not riote, but the oragnized
criminals given sufficient money will do it at the excat required time.
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Author: TobyToby Date: Mar 25, 2008 06:30
nizuy.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:u8thu31hpe5mhu8bmgqres4gel5v12f7n5@4ax.com...
> On 25 Mar 2008 06:43:02 -0500, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
>
>>Of course the US will use whatever it has at its disposal to derail
>>China's
>>rise to power, but that doesn't mean that the Tibetans don't have real
>>grievances against Chinese rule. The CIA wouldn't have a foothold
>>otherwise.
>
> What is this "Tibetan grievance" other than the Lama-desire to
> dominate and rule the Tibetan people as their slaves again?
Your very words underscore your prejudice. Try googling "tibet injustice
china" just for starters, if you are not behind the great firewall of China
where pursuit of knowledge is not allowed.
Toby
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Author: nidayniday Date: Mar 25, 2008 07:12
On 25 Mar 2008 08:30:02 -0500, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
>
> nizuy.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:u8thu31hpe5mhu8bmgqres4gel5v12f7n5@4ax.com...
>> On 25 Mar 2008 06:43:02 -0500, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Of course the US will use whatever it has at its disposal to derail
>>>China's
>>>rise to power, but that doesn't mean that the Tibetans don't have real
>>>grievances against Chinese rule. The CIA wouldn't have a foothold
>>>otherwise.
>>
>> What is this "Tibetan grievance" other than the Lama-desire to
>> dominate and rule the Tibetan people as their slaves again?
>
>Your very words underscore your prejudice.
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Author: bmoorebmoore Date: Mar 25, 2008 12:09
On Mar 25, 4:43 am, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
> Of course the US will use whatever it has at its disposal to derail China's
> rise to power, but that doesn't mean that the Tibetans don't have real
> grievances against Chinese rule. The CIA wouldn't have a foothold otherwise.
Large numbers of Tibetans want the Dalai Lama to return. The claim by
many Dalai Lama haters and CCP apologists that he would bring back the
ways of "Old Tibet" is completely unjustified. The Tibetans want their
spiritual leader back.
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Author: nidayniday Date: Mar 25, 2008 13:31
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:09:41 -0700 (PDT), bmoore@ nyx.net wrote:
>On Mar 25, 4:43?am, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
>> Of course the US will use whatever it has at its disposal to derail China's
>> rise to power, but that doesn't mean that the Tibetans don't have real
>> grievances against Chinese rule. The CIA wouldn't have a foothold otherwise.
>
>Large numbers of Tibetans want the Dalai Lama to return. The claim by
>many Dalai Lama haters and CCP apologists that he would bring back the
>ways of "Old Tibet" is completely unjustified. The Tibetans want their
>spiritual leader back.
Da Lie is not the only "living buddha" of Tibet. There are many
"living buddhas" currently living and teaching in Tibet. Da Lie only
rules one of five Tibetan sects of Lamaism. All the other Tibetan
sects never listen to Da Lie's direction. In addition, the Chinese
government always welcomes Da Lie return to Tibet as a spiritual
leader, but Da Lie simply refuses the invitation by demanding his long
lost political power over the Tibetan people as their slave owner.
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Author: rst0wxyzrst0wxyz Date: Mar 25, 2008 12:34
On Mar 25, 12:09 pm, bmo...@ nyx.net wrote:
> On Mar 25, 4:43 am, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
>
>> Of course the US will use whatever it has at its disposal to derail China's
>> rise to power, but that doesn't mean that the Tibetans don't have real
>> grievances against Chinese rule. The CIA wouldn't have a foothold otherwise.
>
> Large numbers of Tibetans want the Dalai Lama to return. The claim by
> many Dalai Lama haters and CCP apologists that he would bring back the
> ways of "Old Tibet" is completely unjustified. The Tibetans want their
> spiritual leader back.
With today's modern education and easy conveniences, I seriously doubt
any Tibetan want the Dalai Lama back except the old monks. The Dalai
Lama represent the past, and the past was not pretty. It was harsh
and cruel to anyone.
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Author: TobyToby Date: Mar 26, 2008 05:45
nizuy.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:q93iu3dr5s4oe77altfs4hb1c82ohdobe6@4ax.com...
> On 25 Mar 2008 08:30:02 -0500, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> nizuy.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>news:u8thu31hpe5mhu8bmgqres4gel5v12f7n5@4ax.com...
>>> On 25 Mar 2008 06:43:02 -0500, "Toby" oyahooo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Of course the US will use whatever it has at its disposal to derail
>>>>China's
>>>>rise to power, but that doesn't mean that the Tibetans don't have real
>>>>grievances against Chinese rule. The CIA wouldn't have a foothold
>>>>otherwise.
>>>
>>> What is this "Tibetan grievance" other than the Lama-desire to
>>> dominate and rule the Tibetan people as their slaves again?
>>
>>Your very words underscore your prejudice.
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