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The Hypocrisy and Danger of Anti-China Demonstrations         


Author: Yu
Date: May 4, 2008 02:28

by Floyd Rudmin

We hear that Tibetans suffer “demographic aggression” and “cultural
genocide”. But we do not hear those terms applied to Spanish and
French policies toward the Basque minority. We do not hear those terms...
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Re: The Hypocrisy and Danger of Anti-China Demonstrations         


Author: Jakub A. Krzewicki
Date: May 4, 2008 02:54

niedziela, 4 maja 2008 11:28. carbon entity 'Yu' yahoo.com>
contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:
> But we do not hear those terms applied to Spanish and
> French policies toward the Basque minority.

Don't even compare the seriously limited degree of Tibetan autonomy to the
wide Basque autonomy. The Basques have an unlimited ability to appeal to
Strassburg against the abuses of Spanish government. The Basque Nationalist
Party has right to be in the Basque regional parlament and in fact they
lead the Basque regional government after the fall of Francisco Franco
regime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Nationalist_Party
It's just like Dalai Lama ran the Tibetan Autonomy government now.

In France, even more radical Batasuna is still technically legal, despite
your "Tibetan terrorists" are real innocent angels in the comparison to
them. The PRC government seems to pretend not to understand what word
"autonomy" really means.

--
tois egregorosin hena kai koinon kosmon einai
ton de koimomenon hekaston eis idion apostrephesthai
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Author: chatnoir
Date: May 4, 2008 04:30

Yu wrote:
> by Floyd Rudmin
>
> We hear that Tibetans suffer �demographic aggression� and �cultural
> genocide�. But we do not hear those terms applied to Spanish and
> French policies toward the Basque minority. We do not hear those terms
> applied to the US annexation of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1898.

All the time BUB! And the Native Hawaiians talk about it all the time
without repression or being shot!

And
> Diego Garcia?

Democracy Now talks about it all the time and they are still on the
air!

In 1973, not so long ago, the UK forcibly deported the
> entire native Chagossian population from the Indian Ocean island of
> Diego Garcia. People were allowed one suitcase of clothing. Nothing
> else...
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Author: Raymond
Date: May 4, 2008 04:49

On Sun, 04 May 2008 11:57:09 +0200, "Jakub A. Krzewicki"
wrote:
>niedziela, 4 maja 2008 11:28. carbon entity 'Yu' yahoo.com>
>contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:
>
>
>> But we do not hear those terms applied to Spanish and
>> French policies toward the Basque minority.
>
>Don't even compare the seriously limited degree of Tibetan autonomy

What do you know about Tibetan autonomy? What do you know about
Chinese politics? Don't even try to judge what you have no
understanding about based on your limited knowledge of western
democracy. Your western democracy is not God. China has survived
without it for more than 5000 years.
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Author: Jakub A. Krzewicki
Date: May 4, 2008 05:15

niedziela, 4 maja 2008 13:49. carbon entity 'Raymond' nizuy.com>
contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:
> What do you know about Tibetan autonomy? What do you know about
> Chinese politics? Don't even try to judge what you have no
> understanding about based on your limited knowledge of western
> democracy. Your western democracy is not God. China has survived
> without it for more than 5000 years.

With the whole of the evidence-enforcing accessories shown on the "House of
Flying Daggers" movie, which we gave to the museum taking seriously the
advice of Francois-Marie cavaliere de Voltaire???
> Your western democracy is not God.

Monotheism is also a western and Middle-Easten invention, not a Chinese one.
Just as you said, China has survived without it for more than 5000 years,
like without democracy. I don't bother why do you believe in the first one
and not in the second one, but the question of my concern is that monoteism
without democracy you chose proved not to work properly in the West so it
was consequently discarded.
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Author: Raymond
Date: May 4, 2008 05:30

On Sun, 04 May 2008 14:15:15 +0200, "Jakub A. Krzewicki"
wrote:
>niedziela, 4 maja 2008 13:49. carbon entity 'Raymond' nizuy.com>
>contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:
>
>> What do you know about Tibetan autonomy? What do you know about
>> Chinese politics? Don't even try to judge what you have no
>> understanding about based on your limited knowledge of western
>> democracy. Your western democracy is not God. China has survived
>> without it for more than 5000 years.
>
>With the whole of the evidence-enforcing accessories shown on the "House of
>Flying Daggers" movie, which we gave to the museum taking seriously the
>advice of Francois-Marie cavaliere de Voltaire???

Too bad you are such ignorant fool when comes to the issues about
China.
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Author: Jakub A. Krzewicki
Date: May 4, 2008 06:01

niedziela, 4 maja 2008 14:30. carbon entity 'Raymond' nizuy.com>
contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:
> Too bad you are such ignorant fool when comes to the issues about
> China.

I don't appeal to Voltaire by accident, he was a fervent critic of all
religion and one of the few on the west that dared to criticize among the
other also the absurdities of the DL regime of his times. But please try to
realize the fact that all regimes are changing, and if the regime of DL
regained a small part of former power in the really autonomical (if not
independent) Tibet I assume that their regime would be considered by the
many people a relative thaw compared to the present severely limited
autonomy. After all they are more familiar to the western methods of
administration.
>>Monotheism is also a western and Middle-Easten invention, not a Chinese
>>one. Just as you said, China has survived without it for more than 5000
>>years, like without democracy. I don't bother why do...
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Author: Raymond
Date: May 4, 2008 06:32

On Sun, 04 May 2008 15:01:42 +0200, "Jakub A. Krzewicki"
wrote:
>niedziela, 4 maja 2008 14:30. carbon entity 'Raymond' nizuy.com>
>contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:
>
>> Too bad you are such ignorant fool when comes to the issues about...
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Author: Yu
Date: May 4, 2008 07:21

On May 4, 7:30 pm, chatnoir mindspring.com> wrote:
> Yu wrote:
>> by Floyd Rudmin
>
>> We hear that Tibetans suffer �demographic aggression� and �cultural
>> genocide�. But we do not hear those terms applied to Spanish and
>> French policies toward the Basque minority. We do not hear those terms
>> applied to the US annexation of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1898.
>
> All the time BUB!  And the Native Hawaiians talk about it all the time
> without repression or being shot!

I haven't seen the Native Americans killed anybody yet. If they did
they would have been shot to bits and called terrorists.
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Re: The Hypocrisy and Danger of Anti-China Demonstrations         


Author: Jakub A. Krzewicki
Date: May 4, 2008 07:27

niedziela, 4 maja 2008 15:32. carbon entity 'Raymond' nizuy.com>
contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the following letter:
> Again what is your reason to speak for the former slave owner and
> theocratic tyrant in opposing the current socialist government of
> Tibetan people? Why do you feel compelled to speak for the apparent
> evil dark religious force that has been proven beyond reasonable doubt
> as the most brutal regime the world has ever known?

If that realy is, why exactly they are most European Socialists and Green
Leftists among those who support DL, and not for example any American
Christian Right, Catholic Sedevacantists or some likewise fundamentalist
and rightist communities?
> Still, you have not shown the slightest evidence you know anything
> about Chinese politics. So what's your reason to present your western
> fucking methods as the stupid "model" other than your shameless
> arrogance and stupidity?
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