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Group: soc.culture.hongkong · Group Profile
Author: chatnoir
Date: Apr 14, 2008 13:06

On Apr 14, 11:46 am, don...@gmail.com wrote:
> Not just the young people... The vast majority of Chinese people
> support Chinese government.
>
> The government is not perfect, in fact there isn't perfect government
> in the world, but this imperfect government is leading its 1.3 billion
> people toward a better and better life. Also, it is the only
> government since 1894 that enable Chinese people to speak with dignity
> in the world. If you call it "Arrogance with Chinese Stupidity", call
> it that way --- it is people's freedom to speak freely, but some
> respect will surely be appreciated.

Explain how you are free!
>
> On Apr 14, 10:44 am, Micky Wong wrote:
>
>> The Arrogance with Chinese Stupidity -- China's Loyal Youth
>
>> -- Micky's humble opinion: from author's words: "Educated young Chinese
>> are therefore the biggest beneficiaries of policies that have brought
>> China more peace and prosperity than at any time in the past thousand
>> years", it is obvious reporters from the western media can also easily
>> buy into the propaganda of the Chinese government. Even in the early
>> 1900's, Chinese elite from well to do familys had enjoyed a living
>> standard far above the world average. There were many cases of Chinese
>> young men from rich family went to study abroad, had brought back brides
>> of western beauties in the late 1800's and early 1900's. How many well
>> known western beauty queens have married into new riches in China today? --
>
>> April 13, 2008
>
>> Op-Ed Contributor
>
>> China's Loyal Youth
>
>> By MATTHEW FORNEY
>
>> Beijing
>
>> MANY sympathetic Westerners view Chinese society along the lines of what
>> they saw in the waning days of the Soviet Union: a repressive government
>> backed by old hard-liners losing its grip to a new generation of
>> well-educated, liberal-leaning sophisticates. As pleasant as this
>> outlook may be, it's nai"ve. Educated young Chinese, far from being
>> embarrassed or upset by their government's human-rights record, rank
>> among the most patriotic, establishment-supporting people you'll meet.
>
>> As is clear to anyone who lives here, most young ethnic Chinese strongly
>> support their government's suppression of the recent Tibetan uprising.
>> One Chinese friend who has a degree from a European university described
>> the conflict to me as "a clash between the commercial world and an old
>> aboriginal society." She even praised her government for treating
>> Tibetans better than New World settlers treated Native Americans.
>
>> It's a rare person in China who considers the desires of the Tibetans
>> themselves. "Young Chinese have no sympathy for Tibet," a Beijing
>> human-rights lawyer named Teng Biao told me. Mr. Teng -- a Han Chinese
>> who has offered to defend Tibetan monks caught up in police dragnets --
>> feels very alone these days. Most people in their 20s, he says, "believe
>> the Dalai Lama is trying to split China."
>
>> Educated young people are usually the best positioned in society to
>> bridge cultures, so it's important to examine the thinking of those in
>> China. The most striking thing is that, almost without exception, they
>> feel rightfully proud of their country's accomplishments in the three
>> decades since economic reforms began. And their pride and patriotism
>> often find expression in an unquestioning support of their government,
>> especially regarding Tibet.
>
>> The most obvious explanation for this is the education system, which can
>> accurately be described as indoctrination. Textbooks dwell on China's
>> humiliations at the hands of foreign powers in the 19th century as if
>> they took place yesterday, yet skim over the Cultural Revolution of the
>> 1960s and '70s as if it were ancient history. Students learn the neat
>> calculation that Chairman Mao's tyranny was "30 percent wrong," then the
>> subject is declared closed. The uprising in Tibet in the late 1950s, and
>> the invasion that quashed it, are discussed just long enough to lay
>> blame on the "Dalai clique," a pejorative reference to the circle of
>> advisers around Tibet's spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama.
>
>> Then there's life experience -- or the lack of it -- that might otherwise
>> help young Chinese to gain a perspective outside the government's
>> viewpoint. Young urban Chinese study hard and that's pretty much it.
>> Volunteer work, sports, church groups, debate teams, musical skills and
>> other extracurricular activities don't factor into college admission, so
>> few participate. And the government's control of society means there
>> aren't many non-state-run groups to join anyway. Even the most basic
>> American introduction to real life -- the summer job -- rarely exists for
>> urban students in China.
>
>> Recent Chinese college graduates are an optimistic group. And why not?
>> The economy has grown at a double-digit rate for as long as they can
>> remember. Those who speak English are guaranteed good jobs. Their
>> families own homes. They'll soon own one themselves, and probably a car
>> too. A cellphone, an iPod, holidays -- no problem. Small wonder the Pew
>> Research Center in Washington described the Chinese in 2005 as "world
>> leaders in optimism."
>
>> As for political repression, few young Chinese experience it. Most are
>> too young to remember the Tiananmen massacre of 1989 and probably nobody
>> has told them stories. China doesn't feel like a police state, and the
>> people young Chinese read about who do suffer injustices tend to be poor
>> -- those who lost homes to government-linked property developers without
>> fair compensation or whose crops failed when state-supported factories
>> polluted their fields.
>
>> Educated young Chinese are therefore the biggest beneficiaries of
>> policies that have brought China more peace and prosperity than at any
>> time in the past thousand years. They can't imagine why Tibetans would
>> turn up their noses at rising incomes and the promise of a more
>> prosperous future. The loss of a homeland just doesn't compute as a
>> valid concern.
>
>> Of course, the nationalism of young Chinese may soften over time. As
>> college graduates enter the work force and experience their country's
>> corruption and inefficiency, they often grow more critical. It is
>> received wisdom in China that people in their 40s are the most willing
>> to challenge their government, and the Tibet crisis bears out that
>> observation. Of the 29 ethnic-Chinese intellectuals who last month
>> signed a widely publicized petition urging the government to show
>> restraint in the crackdown, not one was under 30.
>
>> Barring major changes in China's education system or economy, Westerners
>> are not going to find allies among the vast majority of Chinese on key
>> issues like Tibet, Darfur and the environment for some time. If the
>> debate over Tibet turns this summer's contests in Beijing into the Human
>> Rights Games, as seems inevitable, Western ticket-holders expecting to
>> find Chinese angry at their government will instead find Chinese angry
>> at them.
>
>> Matthew Forney, a former Beijing bureau chief for Time, is writing a
>> book about raising his family in China.
>
>> Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company
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