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You are in denial....of FACTS.

Taiwan is a self governing province of China .

However , Taiwan is not a nation, because Taiwan is not a memeber
of the UN.

baldeagle wrote:

As such, I have deleted your load of irrelevant garbage too.

All it boils down to is:

The PRC is welcome to prove its claim over Taiwan. Bring it on,
anytime.
The Taiwan independence folks can do likewise for their claim.

Otherwise, PRC's claim to Taiwan is just like Iraq's claim to Kuwait.
You can claim all you want, but you get to keep only those
territories you can conquer.

Never mind the historical aspect. You should hear how the
Palestinians feel about Israel.
They've lived there for thousands of years too.

Just be happy that the PRC only "lost" Outer Mongolia and Taiwan
during the 20th Century; and not more from the old Manchurian
empire. The PRC should save her strength to keep Manchuria. Don't
want to expend strength fighting the Americans and ROC armed
forces over tiny Taiwan, would you?

That'll make it easier for the Northern Bear to swoop down and
steal Manchuria, now that's worth a lot more!

Ace, what do you mean when you said : China lost Mongolia ?

Mongolia belonged to the Manchu army , not to the Chinese army .

Chinese have never controlled Mongolia,
the Manchu military and Manchu emperor controlled Mongolia,
the Chinese military have never controlled Mongolia .

Mongolia deserved her own Independence from China .

Manchuria did not belong to the Chinese ,
Manchuria belonged to the Manchu people, to the Mongol people, to
the old Xian-Bee people, Manchuria has never been a province of
China,
Manchuria was a homeland of the Manchu people ,
not of the Chinese people.

Manchuria has never been a province of China before 1911.

Ace Sinica wrote:

the US military will not fight for Taiwan .

there is no Oil in Taiwan .

Taiwan is a lamed duck ,

the US navy will not even enter the Taiwan Strait .

the US navy will be 200 miles east of Taiwan , looking at the
Taiwan air force .

Ace Sinica wrote:

Ace Sinica wrote:

The only thing special is geography. All else is nothing in comparison.

Lobert wrote:

An independent country is also a matter of international recognizing.
Taiwan is not recognized because it lacks legitimacy.

J.Venning wrote:

I don't think that asking questions and forming an opinion is really
"meddling", do you? Some of us are genuinely interested in the outcome
of the Taiwan issue, because we have either loved ones or business
connections in China and Taiwan, and they in turn have given us their
views on the matter. I do not believe that China is so stupid to
actually invade Taiwan. Anyway, the U.S. will certainly intervene if
China does, and the war will escalate to a point which no sane person
will want to see, although this is what those Fuck Loony Gang want to
happen.

"ltlee1" hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1167964389.688055.209080@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

That is what you say, but that is not what you write.

You pointed out the deaths of American Indians and Mexicans. I merely added the deaths of other ethnic groups in the history of the founding of what the USA is today.

That is not the issue under discussion. You pointed out the deaths of American Indians and Mexicans, and I mere added the deaths of other ethnic groups in the history of the USA.

Every time you read someone else's writing, that person is projecting his way of thinking onto you. I notice however, that you do not answer the questions which I asked. Will this be a one-way discussion in which you pose the questions and expect me to answer them, but you don't answer the questions I pose?
J.

are the Malaysian Chinese holding Malay's passports a
soveriegn people ?

J.Venning wrote: