> On Jul 26, 9:20 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" my-deja.com>
> wrote:> You put "!" not "?" in the header. Ask everyone how they will read the

>> header you created:

>

>> "Mao..a villain or a hero ! Mao failed to stop famine!"

>
> Are you an English expert ? I am not...and I don't think
> you are an English expert.
>
> By using the exclamation mark at the end of the sentence,
> I indicate the sentence has more meanings that a straight
> forward statement. It also mean, if Mao was a hero,
> the he couldn't stop the famine (as we all know only
> God can stop drought and flood.)
>

>> Also, I have told you that Mao created famine with his stupid idea of
>> killing all birds in China.

>
> Killing the birds will create famine !!! It is a stupid idea...
> in fact a super stupid idea.
> Is this a fact... proven by a renowed scientist,...please
> quote the reference of the paper (in Nature) and the
> scientist name(s) who made this great discovery..
> I suspect, it is nothing but a tall tale is from spin
> doctors....typical of them to make up such stupid
> stories.
>
> It was a fact, from record kept in weather record
> file...that between 1958 and 1961, the weather in
> China was abnormal..with severe drought in
> certain rice growing area in China and floor in the
> Yellow River plain and southern China.
> This caused the famine.
> The famine could have been avoided if the UN and
> western countries were willing to help.
>
> Why is it they are willing to help countries like North
> Vietnam and refused to help the millions pf
> famine victims in China.
>
>
>

>> Now re. Chinese death tolls during Great Chinese famine from 1958 to
>> 1961. try google with "三年大饥荒" you will find tons of links, here's one
>> website from MAINLAND CHINA about death toll, what do you say?:

>

>> 1959～1961年三年大饥荒，中国到底饿死了多少人，至今没有一个准确的数字。因为极左路线的干扰，困难时期，我们没有做过全国范围的人口普查。于
>> 是，后来的学者专家们，均是根据1953、1964、1982年仅有的三次人口普查的资料，加上其他参考数据进行推算。

>

>> 　　1985年出版的《中国统计年鉴》显示，1960年比1959年，全国人口减少1000万。中央党史研究室编著的《中国共产党的七十年》载："据正
>> 式统计，1960年全国人口减少1000多万"。

>

>> 　　西安交大蒋振华教授在1986年和1987年，与李南共同发表两篇文章。他们经研究、推算认为：三年大饥荒，中国非正常死亡人口大约为1700
>> 万。1993年，上海大学金辉的推算是，三年灾难中，中国农村的非正常死亡人口可能达到3471万。1994年红旗出版社出版、吕廷煜所著《中华人民共
>> 和国历史纪实》一书中说："1959年至1961年的非正常死亡和减少出生人口数，大约在四千万人左右。"中国人口减少四千万，这可能是上世纪全球范围
>> 的最大饥荒。最近，上海交通大学历史系主任曹树基的计算结果表明，1959～1961年，中国的非正常死亡人口多达3250万。

>

>> 　　2005年9月，中国民政局官员在新闻发布会上说："三年自然灾害"的数字"我们不掌握"。"前事不忘，后事之师"。有学者认为，趁熬过三年困难时
>> 期的老人们还健在，社会各界应共同深入调查，用政府和民间"两条腿走路"的方式，完成这一浩大的抢救工程，为共和国留下可资征信的完整材料。（《看天
>> 下》10.22）

>
> Yes. They confirmed that the FAMINE (自然灾害) caused the death of
> millions in China. Did they say that the famine was caused by Mao who
> ordered the killing of birds? I read and re-read the article but
> could not find the words that blamed Mao. They blamed natural
> disaster.. drought and flood.