> On Jul 23, 11:56 am, abian_c...@yahoo.com wrote:

>> I have given you an example re. out of date of his words. I am sure
>> there are others. Did I or anyone say we should take his words 100%%?
>> Of course not!!!

>
> Glad that you understand ....that the flaws in Confucius
> teaching cannot be followed.
>
> Singapore govt and Beijing govt now promote
> the Confucius society....for a very good reason...so
> that their citizens WILL not challenge or question
> govt. policies.
> Their leaders want the citizens to "respect" the leaders
> like the peasants of old China...with total submission
> and fear.
>
> Should this policy be supported ?
>

>> Even science needs update as time goes by.
>>

>
> Yes. Science and technology is for ever
> changing and ALWAYS improving...
>
> However, Confucius is dead,...he is not alive to improve
> his words and his idea... meaning his words can
> not be changed by us and his ideas is unchanging...
>
> If you changed the meaning of his words or his idea...
> it is no long Confucius' words and idea...it is YOUR words,
> it is YOUR thoughts.
>

>> Japan, Korea, HK, Taiwan, Singapore...are still under strong
>> influence of Confucianism. did that stop Japan and 4 Asian
>> tigers rise again?

>
> I don't think the changes in Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore
> were due to Confucius teaching. Yes. Confucius teaching
> provided the cultural strength in these societies. This alone
> was not the reasons for their success.
>
> The reason for their success is ....they broke the slave chains
> of Mandarin style government ... adopted modern constitution,
> modern management system and economic system.
>
> Changes in Japan:
> Like China, Japan was a sick society torn by wars and
> social unrest.... until Meiji who abolished the mandarin
> system of government and implemented a new Meiji
> Constitution in the 1860s..
> The new society attracted new ideas...science and
> technology into Japan.
>
> Changes in Hong Kong:
> Since the British took over the colony, it changed
> the system of governance in Hong Kong. After
> the war, Hong Kong changed the education system
> to follow the British system. It become westernised,
> bringing in western management system and
> western way of doing business and entrepreneurship.
>
> Changes in Singapore:
> With independent, Singapore embarked on a new
> economic system...open policy...encouraged
> investments...efficient govt and no corruptions.
> These are the factors responsible for the success
> of Singapore.
>
> What caused the changes in these societies..
> they gave up the mandarin system of governance..
> they evolved nes systems suited to their society.
> Their abilities to adopt new ideas, new ways of
> doing things...are the secret of their success.
>