> RichAsianKid wrote:

>> rst0wxyz@yahoo.com wrote:

>>> RichAsianKid wrote:

>>>> rst0wxyz@yahoo.com wrote:

>>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:

>>>>>> Lechergod: RichAsianKid seeks your advice here. How can RAK improve
>>>>>> himself? You said it once before when Dr. Ira Humperdink said something
>>>>>> hostile to RAK, can't remember and then now this. RAK honestly thinks
>>>>>> that lechergod's English is serviceable, but at the same time (unlike
>>>>>> other posters) he thinks lechergod does make some good points esp wrt
>>>>>> political situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RAK

>>>>>
>>>>> WHAT!! The RAT has gone to the dog?
>>>>> to seek advise on how to hog
>>>>> a few who has abused
>>>>> his integrity and BMW?
>>>>>

>>>>
>>>> I should really upgrade my nice sleek BMW tinted coupe (with ACS
>>>> upgrades, M-package etc) to the upcoming M3 (over 400 hp!) or to a
>>>> Porsche 4S or Turbo just to make people hate me even more! Ha!

>>>
>>> Better yet, get a more useful vehicle,
>>> get a Ford Ranger half ton pick-up truck.
>>> They are more fun, practical, and useful.
>>> Instead of a status symbol, and a piece of junk.
>>>

>>
>> Sure, but can your Ford Ranger corner at 0.9g without flipping over?

>
> I'm a sensable driver, RAT. I don't take chances when I don't have to.
> There is no need to speed. I've got 99 years to live. I still have
> many years to go yet.
>

>>
>>
>>

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>
>>>>>> lechergod wrote:

>>>>>>> you are still not accepting newsgroups to be battlefield,
>>>>>>> so you are so in trouble with such annoyance !!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I don't think you should add insult to injury.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>why should he? he likes it here. he thinks he is superior then all the
>>>>>>>>>rest of you, but all he is is a piece of shit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>Then you should go to soc.culture.usa to preach your TI but I doubt you
>>>>>>>>>>will go there. :^))
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>1912? 1912 was a good year for the Republic of China, finally there
>>>>>>>>>>>>was a hope for the Chinese people. Unfortunatly it did not last long
>>>>>>>>>>>>and China went into chaos for next 70 years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You are a nice guy? Oh no, you are NOT!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>As for your TI, *your* America does not support it, so blame your
>>>>>>>>>>>>America!
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Guess that implies more Americans should lobby the government to
>>>>>>>>>>>support TI.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>We're still waiting for your answers to my previous questions - your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion of whether Mongolian independence was and is a good or bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thing for China. And whether 1912 is a blight or honor on China's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>history. I guess that opinion will never come. If so I shall not offer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>my answers to your questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>BUT....since I am such a nice guy and a gent, unlike some cheap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese and ugly dirty smelly filthy third world spitting mainland
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chinese, I say this. Of course people listen to America more than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>China. And they should. America is tops in so many areas and that's why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>people die to risk their chances in the US. Do Americans want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>emigrate to China in droves and try to arrange mass marriages with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>mainland Chinese peasants so they can get their Chinese passports and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>secure Chinese citizenship? No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>You asked about disasters with TI. This disaster will only happen if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>China decides to attack Taiwan. If China's cool with it, and Taiwan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>declares independence, what's going to happen? No "disaster" will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>happen. If China decides that it will treat an independent Taiwan as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>another Asian country like South Korea, or Phillipines, or even Japan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>(in spite of historical animosities), then what disaster will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The ball is therefore in China's court - the disaster and cupability
>>>>>>>>>>>>>therefore lies with China, not Taiwan. If disaster happens, it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>because China makes it happen, not the other way around. Secession is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>not the same as invasion. Japan, South Korea, or Taiwan, or Hong Kong,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Singapore may look down on mainland China, yes, but they will not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>suddenly decide to attack it by 'non peaceful' means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>And let's even forget about TI for a moment. Based on your two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>paragraphs and assuming everything you said is true, as a compromise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>between TI and U, then why not have Taiwan and China stay status quo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>for, say, another century - or forever? Things seem to be working right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>now, even you or other die-hard one China'ers would say, no? So why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>talk about *eventual* unification? Why even think of uniting (or as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>you'd like to say re-uniting) into one *country* -- not an economic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>region, not a trading bloc, but one country? For nativistic fantasy and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>frenzy? To appease so many very dreary red-eyed hardcore nationalists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>who are way past their prime, who love drowning in their own wistful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>nostalgia and melancholy longing for some bygone era where China was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>(if ever) the center of civilization, the beacon of the East, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>'middle kingdom' where all outsiders were barbarians?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese have a lot to fear from mainland China. And mainland Chinese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>have everything Taiwan to covet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, Mongolia is part of ROC according to ROC Constitution, can we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>change that? No! Because *your* GW Bush does not allow we Taiwanese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to do that. So what's your opinion about that??? Let's see if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will bash GW Bush as you did on China.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>As for mainland China, you sound like we want immediate unification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Of course not! Because mainland China is not ready yet at least for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next 25 years, IMO. But how about your TI? Will your TI bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>disaster to Taiwan??? You tell me!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You are no different from those ridiculous TIers. Always bring up old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trick, Mongolia as an example (some TIers even mentioned Chinatown in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the states), why dont you go to Taiwan and mainland China to see if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anyone wants Mongolia to be part of China. If you want to preach TI,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>face the fact first, that is, there are Taiwanese for TI and there are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese for U too.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You didn't answer the question - "If you can have it your way now (just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for fun), do you want Mongolia to be re-united with China?" The answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>should not be dependent on whether Mongolians want to be reunited with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>China or whether mainland Chinese want Mongolia want to be part of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>China - because I'm just asking for your opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And is 1921 a bad year for China, again in your opinion (i.e. year when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mongolia became independent)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BTW, a few years ago, some Mongolians did say maybe it is a good idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to rejoin China to benefit China's economic success so you never know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:^))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ohhhhh, just like...you mean some Chinese want to rejoin Taiwan to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>benefit from Taiwan's economic success!! Do they want to steal from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwan? Do they want to pillage and plunder from Taiwan? Do they want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to have an equal economic structure and political system of Taiwan's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that their own country - mainland China - was not and still is not able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to provide!? Do they want to use Taiwan as a stepping stone to emigrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the West, so they can live and lead better lives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Country GDP PPP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwan $27600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>China $6800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mongolia $1900
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Just *imagine* this for a moment. Taiwan becomes a separate country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Will you be indifferent? Because I am (unlike my friends who are very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>much for TI). I bet however, that you'd say that you'd very very much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like to live to see Taiwan and China united with your own eyes - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>status quo is only a compromise. You want to see the two together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>united, sooner rather than later. Is RAK far from the truth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So here's the question: what do you think of Mongolia? If you can have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it your way now (just for fun), do you want Mongolia to be re-united
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with China? Is 1921 a bad year for China in your opinion?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nah, send your post to the White House to see if *your* GW Bush will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>change mind and support your TI. Hey, you never know, Bush may write a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>follow-up to this NG. Other than that, we are fine with status quo and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>glad the economic tie with mainland China getting stronger each year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If you only hang out with your TI comrades, of course, no Taiwanese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wants unification. But if you go out of your TI ghetto and talk to KMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>supporters, you will find majority of them support One-China Principle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and eventual unification. And not to mention 1.5 million Taiwanese now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>live, work, study in mainland China. And chance for your TI is very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>slim although you can dream of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post is just for you, after your long absence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ghetto? Poor mainland Chinese look more ghetto to me than richer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Secessionist sentiment is popping up all over the world. History
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suggests that diversity be it ethnic, religious, or linguistic - or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>even there is nothing significant but a group of people only perceives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>itself as different in tribe can often associated with a kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fragmentation and political identification. And modern day secessionist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>movements have broken apart the USSR, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2001 Germany began a year-long celebartion of old Prussia. In England,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Union Jack is replaced on taxicabs with the medieval Cross of ST.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>George. In Alberta and Saskatchewan, indepedence parties have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>formed etc. Or this Tibet/China/Taiwan situation in the Far East. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>now with the La Reconquista movement in SW US. There are differences of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>course but still.....sometimes good fences make good neighbors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Having said all that, I've said before that he doesn't really care and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>neither do I - indepedence is not really a topic of conversation - and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>**neither is unification**. But come think of it, I think that he did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mention once in passing that he is a (strong) supporter of independence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(he's "upper middle class"). He's not the one who said Chinese are shit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>btw, it's another Taiwanese. I really sense a great deal of Taiwanese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>who are very rough on China. Even Hong Kong people say the same - they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't like mainland Chinese moving in their neighborhood - even though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it's a ghetto itself. Probably that's why their parents emigrated,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't know. Even Korean American friends dislike mainland Chinese and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>label them as barbaric. "White" Americans probably feel the same but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it's politically incorrect to voice this though a good Anglo friend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>keeps taunting saying "Chinamen square" (for Tianamen Square) re:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>barbarism! Totally off topic. Just saying that's how people view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>things. (Or the crowd that RAK hangs out with??)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To be fair China has improved a lot since the 80s, and probably will in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the future. As it is on its upward slope, those who are affluent (like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>guess who?) can take advantage of business ops, dulling whatever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deserved antipathy; those who are lower down the socioeconomic ladder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will just have to kick China around! I must admit that I now view China
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in a slightly more favorable light after I compared it to India (check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out previous threads). Something about India just incites a sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>animosity - like, how can these people be so stupid (IQ in low 80s) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>make such a mess of a country? At least China's doing better. But for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>China to be a developed country in general and for foreigners to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>respect its citizens (vs military prowess or terrorist aspects from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nukes!) and for China to have generally liveable conditions by Western
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>standards - it will take a few decades. Or it can conquer Russia on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>East and start development anew - after it conquers Tibet and Taiwan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lots of land there. Pat Buchanan's prophecy....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>area51watch@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"In terms of the four Asian countries Taiwan, China, Japan, and South
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Korea, the general public in the five countries (Japan, US, UK, France,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Germany) surveyed has, on the whole, a better impression of Japan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>followed by Taiwan and South Korea, while their impression of China is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the least favorable."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It seems that people in Japan also have the most favorable impression
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of Taiwan, followed by Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Philippines and,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>increasingly, South Korea (especially among Japan's youths who seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gobble up contemporary South Korean movie actors and actresses and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>singers).

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A Taiwanese friend of mine says his favorite country in Asia is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doubt Japan, followed by Singapore. Hong Kong gave him a bad taste as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when he tried to speak accented Mandarin (he came to US very early)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people thought he was mainland Chinese and dissed him and 'fleeced'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>him. So he then switched to English and he was much more respected. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sure about the rest of your list, but it probably holds true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's interesting that South Korea has a relatively bad rep esp in Japan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but also in Taiwan due in no small part to historical reasons but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>personal experience with Koreans (those who either emigrated early or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ABKs) has been positive. Of course they know how to party and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sloshed in bars so that's why they're so swell (unlike Taiwanese who go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for bubble tea, or Japanese who go for sushi, as much as I love
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Japanese food)!! I cannot say the same about 40-50+ Korean crowd of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>course, or those who do not speak much English - they come across as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gruff and rude and too fiercely nationalistic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's amazing how South Korean 'hallyu' phenomenon has taken over the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>East so seriously. I wondered why, and a search makes this more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understandable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.kpopmusic.co.uk/Korean_Girls.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And yes Japan does not trust China, Russia, or NK. I think a lot in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwan do not trust these countries either, based on personal opinion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>feedback. They may not necessarily want war (no one does) or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>necessarily immediate outright secession in the case of Taiwan, but no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese that I know of dream of 'unification' with mainland China as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>predaciously as many mainland Chinese do with Taiwan. I'm sure there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are some, probably even here on these newsgroups, and specimens may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>found amongst those who choose to re-locate to mainland China, but just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saying personal experience indicates otherwise. If anything they do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like mainland Chinese or the government or even China. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understandable - else people would not be voting with their feet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>leaving their countries for democratic countries in the west or even SE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Asian countries - there are HK/Taiwan people migrating to Phillippines,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thailand, Indonesia - i.e. down the economic gradient - away from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>threat of communism. It remains to be seen how China will be perceived
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with its increasing economic clout, even though it is still far far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>behind Taiwan, or South Korea. Focus on right column, ppp adjusted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posted in the past.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://siteresources.worldbank.org/DATASTATISTICS/Resources/GNIPC.pdf

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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