> rst0wxyz@yahoo.com wrote:

>> RichAsianKid wrote:

>>> rst0wxyz@yahoo.com wrote:

>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:

>>>>> Lechergod: RichAsianKid seeks your advice here. How can RAK improve
>>>>> himself? You said it once before when Dr. Ira Humperdink said something
>>>>> hostile to RAK, can't remember and then now this. RAK honestly thinks
>>>>> that lechergod's English is serviceable, but at the same time (unlike
>>>>> other posters) he thinks lechergod does make some good points esp wrt
>>>>> political situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> RAK

>>>>
>>>> WHAT!! The RAT has gone to the dog?
>>>> to seek advise on how to hog
>>>> a few who has abused
>>>> his integrity and BMW?
>>>>

>>>
>>> I should really upgrade my nice sleek BMW tinted coupe (with ACS
>>> upgrades, M-package etc) to the upcoming M3 (over 400 hp!) or to a
>>> Porsche 4S or Turbo just to make people hate me even more! Ha!

>>
>> Better yet, get a more useful vehicle,
>> get a Ford Ranger half ton pick-up truck.
>> They are more fun, practical, and useful.
>> Instead of a status symbol, and a piece of junk.
>>

>
> Sure, but can your Ford Ranger corner at 0.9g without flipping over?

>
>
>

>>>

>>>>

>>>>>
>>>>> lechergod wrote:

>>>>>> you are still not accepting newsgroups to be battlefield,
>>>>>> so you are so in trouble with such annoyance !!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I don't think you should add insult to injury.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>why should he? he likes it here. he thinks he is superior then all the
>>>>>>>>rest of you, but all he is is a piece of shit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Then you should go to soc.culture.usa to preach your TI but I doubt you
>>>>>>>>>will go there. :^))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>1912? 1912 was a good year for the Republic of China, finally there
>>>>>>>>>>>was a hope for the Chinese people. Unfortunatly it did not last long
>>>>>>>>>>>and China went into chaos for next 70 years.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You are a nice guy? Oh no, you are NOT!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>As for your TI, *your* America does not support it, so blame your
>>>>>>>>>>>America!
>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Guess that implies more Americans should lobby the government to
>>>>>>>>>>support TI.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>We're still waiting for your answers to my previous questions - your
>>>>>>>>>>>>opinion of whether Mongolian independence was and is a good or bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>thing for China. And whether 1912 is a blight or honor on China's
>>>>>>>>>>>>history. I guess that opinion will never come. If so I shall not offer
>>>>>>>>>>>>my answers to your questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>BUT....since I am such a nice guy and a gent, unlike some cheap
>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese and ugly dirty smelly filthy third world spitting mainland
>>>>>>>>>>>>Chinese, I say this. Of course people listen to America more than
>>>>>>>>>>>>China. And they should. America is tops in so many areas and that's why
>>>>>>>>>>>>people die to risk their chances in the US. Do Americans want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>emigrate to China in droves and try to arrange mass marriages with
>>>>>>>>>>>>mainland Chinese peasants so they can get their Chinese passports and
>>>>>>>>>>>>secure Chinese citizenship? No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You asked about disasters with TI. This disaster will only happen if
>>>>>>>>>>>>China decides to attack Taiwan. If China's cool with it, and Taiwan
>>>>>>>>>>>>declares independence, what's going to happen? No "disaster" will
>>>>>>>>>>>>happen. If China decides that it will treat an independent Taiwan as
>>>>>>>>>>>>another Asian country like South Korea, or Phillipines, or even Japan
>>>>>>>>>>>>(in spite of historical animosities), then what disaster will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>The ball is therefore in China's court - the disaster and cupability
>>>>>>>>>>>>therefore lies with China, not Taiwan. If disaster happens, it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>because China makes it happen, not the other way around. Secession is
>>>>>>>>>>>>not the same as invasion. Japan, South Korea, or Taiwan, or Hong Kong,
>>>>>>>>>>>>or Singapore may look down on mainland China, yes, but they will not
>>>>>>>>>>>>suddenly decide to attack it by 'non peaceful' means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>And let's even forget about TI for a moment. Based on your two
>>>>>>>>>>>>paragraphs and assuming everything you said is true, as a compromise
>>>>>>>>>>>>between TI and U, then why not have Taiwan and China stay status quo
>>>>>>>>>>>>for, say, another century - or forever? Things seem to be working right
>>>>>>>>>>>>now, even you or other die-hard one China'ers would say, no? So why
>>>>>>>>>>>>talk about *eventual* unification? Why even think of uniting (or as
>>>>>>>>>>>>you'd like to say re-uniting) into one *country* -- not an economic
>>>>>>>>>>>>region, not a trading bloc, but one country? For nativistic fantasy and
>>>>>>>>>>>>frenzy? To appease so many very dreary red-eyed hardcore nationalists
>>>>>>>>>>>>who are way past their prime, who love drowning in their own wistful
>>>>>>>>>>>>nostalgia and melancholy longing for some bygone era where China was
>>>>>>>>>>>>(if ever) the center of civilization, the beacon of the East, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>'middle kingdom' where all outsiders were barbarians?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese have a lot to fear from mainland China. And mainland Chinese
>>>>>>>>>>>>have everything Taiwan to covet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, Mongolia is part of ROC according to ROC Constitution, can we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>change that? No! Because *your* GW Bush does not allow we Taiwanese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to do that. So what's your opinion about that??? Let's see if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>will bash GW Bush as you did on China.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>As for mainland China, you sound like we want immediate unification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Of course not! Because mainland China is not ready yet at least for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>next 25 years, IMO. But how about your TI? Will your TI bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>disaster to Taiwan??? You tell me!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You are no different from those ridiculous TIers. Always bring up old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trick, Mongolia as an example (some TIers even mentioned Chinatown in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the states), why dont you go to Taiwan and mainland China to see if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anyone wants Mongolia to be part of China. If you want to preach TI,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>face the fact first, that is, there are Taiwanese for TI and there are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese for U too.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You didn't answer the question - "If you can have it your way now (just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for fun), do you want Mongolia to be re-united with China?" The answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>should not be dependent on whether Mongolians want to be reunited with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>China or whether mainland Chinese want Mongolia want to be part of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>China - because I'm just asking for your opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And is 1921 a bad year for China, again in your opinion (i.e. year when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mongolia became independent)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BTW, a few years ago, some Mongolians did say maybe it is a good idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to rejoin China to benefit China's economic success so you never know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:^))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ohhhhh, just like...you mean some Chinese want to rejoin Taiwan to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>benefit from Taiwan's economic success!! Do they want to steal from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwan? Do they want to pillage and plunder from Taiwan? Do they want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to have an equal economic structure and political system of Taiwan's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that their own country - mainland China - was not and still is not able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to provide!? Do they want to use Taiwan as a stepping stone to emigrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the West, so they can live and lead better lives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Country GDP PPP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwan $27600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>China $6800
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mongolia $1900
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Just *imagine* this for a moment. Taiwan becomes a separate country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Will you be indifferent? Because I am (unlike my friends who are very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>much for TI). I bet however, that you'd say that you'd very very much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like to live to see Taiwan and China united with your own eyes - the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>status quo is only a compromise. You want to see the two together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>united, sooner rather than later. Is RAK far from the truth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So here's the question: what do you think of Mongolia? If you can have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it your way now (just for fun), do you want Mongolia to be re-united
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with China? Is 1921 a bad year for China in your opinion?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nah, send your post to the White House to see if *your* GW Bush will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>change mind and support your TI. Hey, you never know, Bush may write a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>follow-up to this NG. Other than that, we are fine with status quo and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>glad the economic tie with mainland China getting stronger each year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>abianchen@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If you only hang out with your TI comrades, of course, no Taiwanese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wants unification. But if you go out of your TI ghetto and talk to KMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>supporters, you will find majority of them support One-China Principle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and eventual unification. And not to mention 1.5 million Taiwanese now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>live, work, study in mainland China. And chance for your TI is very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>slim although you can dream of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post is just for you, after your long absence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ghetto? Poor mainland Chinese look more ghetto to me than richer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Secessionist sentiment is popping up all over the world. History
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suggests that diversity be it ethnic, religious, or linguistic - or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>even there is nothing significant but a group of people only perceives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>itself as different in tribe can often associated with a kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fragmentation and political identification. And modern day secessionist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>movements have broken apart the USSR, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2001 Germany began a year-long celebartion of old Prussia. In England,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Union Jack is replaced on taxicabs with the medieval Cross of ST.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>George. In Alberta and Saskatchewan, indepedence parties have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>formed etc. Or this Tibet/China/Taiwan situation in the Far East. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>now with the La Reconquista movement in SW US. There are differences of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>course but still.....sometimes good fences make good neighbors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Having said all that, I've said before that he doesn't really care and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>neither do I - indepedence is not really a topic of conversation - and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>**neither is unification**. But come think of it, I think that he did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mention once in passing that he is a (strong) supporter of independence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(he's "upper middle class"). He's not the one who said Chinese are shit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>btw, it's another Taiwanese. I really sense a great deal of Taiwanese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>who are very rough on China. Even Hong Kong people say the same - they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't like mainland Chinese moving in their neighborhood - even though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it's a ghetto itself. Probably that's why their parents emigrated,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't know. Even Korean American friends dislike mainland Chinese and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>label them as barbaric. "White" Americans probably feel the same but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it's politically incorrect to voice this though a good Anglo friend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>keeps taunting saying "Chinamen square" (for Tianamen Square) re:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>barbarism! Totally off topic. Just saying that's how people view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>things. (Or the crowd that RAK hangs out with??)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To be fair China has improved a lot since the 80s, and probably will in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the future. As it is on its upward slope, those who are affluent (like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>guess who?) can take advantage of business ops, dulling whatever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deserved antipathy; those who are lower down the socioeconomic ladder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will just have to kick China around! I must admit that I now view China
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in a slightly more favorable light after I compared it to India (check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out previous threads). Something about India just incites a sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>animosity - like, how can these people be so stupid (IQ in low 80s) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>make such a mess of a country? At least China's doing better. But for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>China to be a developed country in general and for foreigners to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>respect its citizens (vs military prowess or terrorist aspects from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nukes!) and for China to have generally liveable conditions by Western
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>standards - it will take a few decades. Or it can conquer Russia on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>East and start development anew - after it conquers Tibet and Taiwan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lots of land there. Pat Buchanan's prophecy....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>area51watch@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RichAsianKid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"In terms of the four Asian countries Taiwan, China, Japan, and South
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Korea, the general public in the five countries (Japan, US, UK, France,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Germany) surveyed has, on the whole, a better impression of Japan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>followed by Taiwan and South Korea, while their impression of China is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the least favorable."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It seems that people in Japan also have the most favorable impression
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of Taiwan, followed by Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Philippines and,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>increasingly, South Korea (especially among Japan's youths who seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gobble up contemporary South Korean movie actors and actresses and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>singers).

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A Taiwanese friend of mine says his favorite country in Asia is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doubt Japan, followed by Singapore. Hong Kong gave him a bad taste as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when he tried to speak accented Mandarin (he came to US very early)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people thought he was mainland Chinese and dissed him and 'fleeced'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>him. So he then switched to English and he was much more respected. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sure about the rest of your list, but it probably holds true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's interesting that South Korea has a relatively bad rep esp in Japan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but also in Taiwan due in no small part to historical reasons but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>personal experience with Koreans (those who either emigrated early or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ABKs) has been positive. Of course they know how to party and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sloshed in bars so that's why they're so swell (unlike Taiwanese who go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for bubble tea, or Japanese who go for sushi, as much as I love
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Japanese food)!! I cannot say the same about 40-50+ Korean crowd of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>course, or those who do not speak much English - they come across as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gruff and rude and too fiercely nationalistic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's amazing how South Korean 'hallyu' phenomenon has taken over the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>East so seriously. I wondered why, and a search makes this more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understandable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.kpopmusic.co.uk/Korean_Girls.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And yes Japan does not trust China, Russia, or NK. I think a lot in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwan do not trust these countries either, based on personal opinion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>feedback. They may not necessarily want war (no one does) or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>necessarily immediate outright secession in the case of Taiwan, but no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Taiwanese that I know of dream of 'unification' with mainland China as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>predaciously as many mainland Chinese do with Taiwan. I'm sure there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are some, probably even here on these newsgroups, and specimens may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>found amongst those who choose to re-locate to mainland China, but just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saying personal experience indicates otherwise. If anything they do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like mainland Chinese or the government or even China. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understandable - else people would not be voting with their feet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>leaving their countries for democratic countries in the west or even SE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Asian countries - there are HK/Taiwan people migrating to Phillippines,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thailand, Indonesia - i.e. down the economic gradient - away from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>threat of communism. It remains to be seen how China will be perceived
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with its increasing economic clout, even though it is still far far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>behind Taiwan, or South Korea. Focus on right column, ppp adjusted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posted in the past.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://siteresources.worldbank.org/DATASTATISTICS/Resources/GNIPC.pdf

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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