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GOOD! These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or anywhere in the world!!! Re: Olympic protesters asked to leave China         


Author: hu.jt.china
Date: Aug 14, 2008 03:49

GOOD! These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or
anywhere in the world!!! These people only cause harm to this world no
matter if they are Christian fundamentalists or Islam fundamentalists
or FLG fundamentalists...Their activities should be banned. In Chinese
history, Chinese people are not particularly addicted to any religion
so it should be maintained that way forever!!!

On Aug 13, 8:57 am, chatnoir mindspring.com> wrote:
> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Persecution/Default.aspx?id=210622
>
> Olympic protesters asked to leave China
> Allie Martin - OneNewsNow ...
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Re: GOOD! These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or anywhere in the world!!! Re: Olympic protesters asked to leave China         


Author: Jim Walsh
Date: Aug 14, 2008 08:58

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:49:50 +0800, hu.jt.china@gmail.com wrote
(in article
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> These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or anywhere in the
> world!!!

Everyone should be free to choose a religion, and free to choose no religion
at all.

--
Love, Jim
(I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive
crossposts.)

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Re: GOOD! These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or anywhere in the world!!! Re: Olympic protesters asked to leave China         


Author: hu.jt.china
Date: Aug 14, 2008 09:14

Free to choose religion ok. But those religious fundamentalists should
be sent to labor camp for re-education!!!
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Re: GOOD! These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or anywhere in the world!!! Re: Olympic protesters asked to leave China         


Author: Jim Walsh
Date: Aug 14, 2008 09:31

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:14:57 +0800, hu.jt.china@gmail.com wrote
(in article
<84913c01-ada0-44bf-9c79-cf873e3f15b2@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>):
> Free to choose religion ok. But those religious fundamentalists should
> be sent to labor camp for re-education!....

Freedom to choose means freedom from persecution for ones choice. So your
first and second sentences contradict each other.

--
Love, Jim
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crossposts.)

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Re: GOOD! These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or anywhere in the world!!! Re: Olympic protesters asked to leave China         


Author: wen.jb.china
Date: Aug 14, 2008 09:53

No contradiction! People are free to choose religion but not free to
be religious fundamentalists, When they choose to be religious
fundamentalists, then they choose against other religions, encourage
to use religion as a weapon to shut up those who disagree with them.
For example, Taliban or those Christian fundamenalists like dead Jerry
Falwell aslo spoke against other religions etc before. Those people
are cancer to this world and should be sent to labor camp for re-
education!!!!

On Aug 14, 12:31 pm, Jim Walsh gmNOail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:14:57 +0800, hu.jt.ch...@gmail.com wrote
> (in article
> <84913c01-ada0-44bf-9c79-cf873e3f1...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups...
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Re: GOOD! These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or anywhere in the world!!! Re: Olympic protesters asked to leave China         


Author: Jim Walsh
Date: Aug 14, 2008 10:07

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:53:03 +0800, wen.jb.china@gmail.com wrote
(in article
<49a25993-9112-4769-bd88-80032dcff8a0@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>):
> No contradiction! People are free to choose religion but not free to
> be religious fundamentalists,

Nonsense. I guess you either failed logic or don't understand English well.
> ..... When they choose to be religious
> fundamentalists, then they choose against other religions, encourage
> to use religion as a weapon to shut up those who disagree with them.

Agree that ACTIONS (for example, shutting up or trying to shut up those who
disagree) can be punished. The religion called Seventh Day Adventism is
fundamentalist. And they proselytize, but they do not threaten those who
disagree with them.

Meanwhile the Roman Catholic Church is NOT a "fundamentalist" religion, but
at various times, up to and including modern times, it attempted to force
others to join it. Those who exert such force may (depending on the degree)
be criminals subject to prosecution as such.
> For example, Taliban or those Christian fundamenalists like dead Jerry
> Falwell aslo spoke against other religions etc before.
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Re: GOOD! These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or anywhere in the world!!! Re: Olympic protesters asked to leave China         


Author: wen.jb.china
Date: Aug 14, 2008 10:16

One is not religious fundamenalist if s/he respects other religions or
not use religion as a weapon against people who disagree with him or
her... Otherwise, they are religious fundamentalist, a criminal,
parasite, cancer to the society, then should be sent to labor camp for
re-education!

On Aug 14, 1:07 pm, Jim Walsh gmNOail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:53:03 +0800, wen.jb.ch...@gmail.com wrote
> (in article
> <49a25993-9112-4769-bd88-80032dcff...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups...
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Re: GOOD! These religious fundamentalists have no place in China or anywhere in the world!!! Re: Olympic protesters asked to leave China         


Author: Jim Walsh
Date: Aug 14, 2008 11:01

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:16:04 +0800, wen.jb.china@gmail.com wrote
(in article
c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):
> Otherwise, they are religious fundamentalist, a criminal, parasite, cancer to
> the society, then should be sent to labor camp for re-education!

People who are charged with a crime should have a fair and open trial based
on the presumption of innocence. If convicted, they should receive a
reasonable sentence.

The use of arbitrary and unrestricted dentention for the expression of ideas
is repugnant.

--
Love, Jim
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Agree that those who coerce conversion or use force in the name of religion are criminals         


Author: Jim Walsh
Date: Aug 14, 2008 11:01

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:16:04 +0800, wen.jb.china@gmail.com wrote
(in article
c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):
> One is not religious fundamenalist if s/he respects other religions or not
> use religion as a weapon against people who disagree .....

no. That is not what the English words mean. Perhaps there is a difference in
meaning between the English word "fundamentalist" and the Chinese word used
to translate the term.

The use of force against non-believers is NOT the meaning of
"fundamentalism".

See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalism

for an overview; and then ook at articles like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist_Christianity
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Author: hu.jt.china
Date: Aug 14, 2008 12:18

Well, that's definition in early 20th century, What happens today???
Many of them want the world to be like them, under their god's rule.
Ok, if you don't like the term, call those people religious extremist.

In Chinese history, Chinese people are never addicted to any religion
so we didn't have stupid religious wars and it should be kept that
way, The Chinese government should monitor religious activities to
prevent any religious extremism.

On Aug 14, 2:01 pm, Jim Walsh gmNOail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:16:04 +0800, wen.jb.ch...@gmail.com wrote
> (in article
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