> The caste system is part of Hindu religion. The Gita stated the 3
> classes of holiness that can be subdivided into 9 parts. These saying
> of the classification is trying to reinfornce the caste system.
> In Visualising Sutra, there is also the 3 classes and 9 parts.
>
> When you class people into different devotional work or holiness, it is
> saying the lowest class has to suffer the most. The upper class will
> enjoy enlightenment. The lower class will be punish in hell.
>
> The world is a stage, we are only actors.
> What we do are all pre-programmed. We do what the Creator wants us to
> do.
> Our spiritual soul is a part of the Creator. If we can hace communion
> with It, we are like the part of the Creator.
> My spiritual soul is no different from your spiritual soul, but I
> cannot pray to your spiritual soul to achieve enlightenment. I have to
> pray to my spiritual soul by way of nasal gaze in meditaion.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Chapter 5 -- Communion Through Renunciation
>
> Arjuna said: O Krsna! Thou praises in one breath both abandonment of
> works and communion through their performance. Now tell me with
> certainty which of them leads to one's good.
>
> The Blessed Lord said: Both abandonment of works and communion through
> works lead to liberation. But of them, communion through work excels
> over abandonment of work.
>
> O mighty-armed one! Whoever hates not, nor desires, should be known as
> one established in renunciation. Indeed one who is above such
> contraries is easily liberated from bandage.
>
> It is only the childish and not the wise that speak of Samkhya (or
> knowledge accompanied by abandonment of work) and Yoga (or communion
> through detached and dedicated work) as different. A person
> well-established in even one of these, attains the end that is the
> common goal of both. (That is, in the means they employ, they look
> different, but their end or ultimate purpose is identical.)
>
> The state which one attains by Samkhya, that same state is attained by
> Yoga too. He who sees both Samkhya and Yoga as one, sees indeed.
>
> O mighty-armed Arjuna! True abandonment of work (which the discipline
> of Samkhya implies) is difficult to practice for one who is not
> accomplished in the Yoga discipline of detached work. But the sage
> accomplished in Yoga attains to Brahman (renunciation?) in no long
> time. (Who is this sage? Me?)
>
> One who is established in selfless and detached action, who is pure,
> whose mind and senses are under control, and whose self is identified
> with the self of all --he is never bound, though he be engaged in work.
>
> I (the Self) do naught; only the senses are occupied with their
> objects--this should be the conviction of one who is detached in action
> and established in the truth (that he is the Atman), even while seeing,
> hearing, touching, smelling, eating, conversing, holding, walking,
> giving up, winking and even sleeping. [I think the English translation
> is not good here. I (Krsna), here becomes Self. Is this indirectly
> telling you, Self is Krsna?]
>
> One who resigns all his actions to Brahman and works without any
> personal attachments, is not soiled by sin, as a lotus leaf is not
> wetted by water.
>
> For the attainment of mental purity, spiritual aspirants (Yogins)
> perform action devoid of attachment, with their body, mind, intellect
> or even merely with the senses.
>
> By abandoning the fruits of action a man of restrained mind attains to
> abiding peace. But the one with unrestrained mind, being prompted by
> desire for the fruits of action, gets bound.
>
> A self-controlled soul, having abandoned all work mentally (in the way
> described above), resides at ease (as a witness) in this corporeal
> mansion with nine gates, neither working nor causing work to be done.
>
> In regard to all beings in this world, the sovereign soul is not the
> cause of the sense of agency, nor of actions, nor of the fruition of
> actions. It is Nature that does all this. (Here Nature is included to
> confuse you.)
>
> The all-pervading Being does not accept the sins or merits of any one.
> Knowledge of the Divine Spirit is veiled in ignorant, and therefore
> beings are deluded. (Why include Being and Divine Spirit to confuse
> readers?)
>
> But in the case of those whose ignorance has been destroyed by the
> knowledge of the Atman, to them that knowledge reveals the supreme
> Truth, as the sun does the objects of the world. (The English
> translation here is not good. Revealing the Truth, like the sun, could
> be like looking at the nose tip to represent the sunset as in
> Visualizing Sutra.)
>
> Those who think of Him always, who are ever at one with Him, who are
> deeply devoted to Him, and who look upon Him as their goal, get
> purified of their sins by divine knowledge and go to the state from
> which there is no return to worldly life. (Him, who? The mark, stupid!)
>
> Enlightened men are those who see the same (ie the Atman) in a Brahmana
> with learning and humility, in a cow, in an elephant, and even in a dog
> or in an eater of dog-meat (outcaste). (The spirits in every things are
> One.)
>
> Even here in this embodied state, the cycle of births and deaths has
> been overcome by those who have this vision of sameness in all. Verily,
> Brahman is the Unsullied and the Pure. Therefore are those seers of
> sameness said to be established in Brahman. (Who is Brahman? Our
> Spirit)
>
> Unperturbed and un-deluded, a knower of Brahman, who is established in
> Him, neither rejoices at pleasant experiences nor gets agitated at
> unpleasant ones. (Another, it says: those established in Me, Krsna. So
> which is which?)
>
> An aspirant who is unattached to the contacted experiences of the
> external worlds, gains the joy that is in the Self within. He thereby
> enjoys unending bliss with his mind absorbed in communion with Brahman
> (who is both within and without).
>
> Whatever enjoyments are there born of sense contact, they are sources
> of suffering only. For, they are with a beginning and an end. A wise
> man finds no delight in them.
>
> Here, even while in the body, whoever is able to withstand the
> agitation caused by lust and anger, he is the self-controlled one, he
> is the happy man.
>
> The Yogin whose happiness is within, whose resting place is within, who
> likewise experiences the light within--he realizes himself to be the
> Spirit and attains to beatitude in Brahman. (I find this Brahman is
> something like Buddha, someone enlightened, but why in everything like
> Tao? To confuse readers!)
>
> Verily, they attain to beatitude in Brahman who are sinless, whose
> doubts have been destroyed, whose self is under their control and who
> rejoice in the good of all. (Is beatitude in Brahman, Buddha?)
>
> To those self-controlled ones (ascetics) who are free from lust and
> anger, who have controlled their minds and who have known their real
> nature as the spirit--the attainment of beatitude in Brahman is near at
> hand.
>
> Excluding all sense perceptions, fixing the look between the eye brows;
> steadying the flow of Prana (out-going breath) and Apana (incoming
> breath) through the nostrils; controlling the senses, mind and
> intellect; devoid of desires, fear and anger; and aspiring for
> liberation alone-- a meditative sage so established, is liberated for
> ever. (This meditation method is a fake one. The correct one is nasal
> gaze. Liberated forever is wrong.)
>
> Knowing Me, the recipient of all worship and austere practice, the
> Supreme Lord of all the worlds, and the friend of all beings, man
> attains to eternal peace. (See, it refer to Krsna again. First, our
> spirit is eternal, so what is there to liberate? To liberate our body?
> Nonsense! When we meditate, we are in communion with our spirit, not
> any Tom, Dick or Harry. So terms like Atman, Brahman, Krsna etc are
> intended to confuse the readers. There are spirits in stones, trees,
> rivers, mountains etc. All spirits are One. Only human spirit can help
> to bring world peace. This is why we are above the animals.)
>
>
> Learner wrote:

>> Where does Gita say this? This caste or class system that you are
>> talking about was part of every society in the world. There were rulers
>> everywhere. They were not part of religion. I have read Gita and it
>> only promotes equality and freedom.
>> Just as communism, democracy and nudity are not part of any religion,
>> class system is not part of hindu religion. They existed in every
>> system. In modern India, people enjoy freedom and equality is on the
>> rise despite being a hindu country. If class system were part of Hindu
>> system, why would hindus promote equality? So your logic is flawed and
>> hateful.