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AbianChen is a Liar - Restaurant Din Tai Fung is famous for *Taiwanese* Dumplings, not Chinese         

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Author: RichAsianKid
Date: Mar 4, 2007 13:02

On Mar 4, 2:20 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" my-deja.com>
wrote:
> Now simpleton RAK wants to cover up his ignorance about Chinese food.
> Gosh, this idiot RAK did not even know steamed dumplings etc are
> Chinese food even average Americans know it!!! If RAK is so ignorant
> about Chinese food, how can he make comments about Chinese food???
>
> Sigh, did RAK come from a good educated family??? I bet his family
> probably is running laudermat.
>
>From your other endless thread with Philip about whether China smells
of shit everywhere, I know that you're a troll. So it may not be best
to answer this. But I have correct you about Din Tai Fung being
Taiwanese. (Incidentally Philip is at least partially right - my
Taiwanese friend says mainland Chinese people are just shit, and you
*do* see people everywhere in China, so shit must be everywhere. I
myself, however, do no recall the ubiquitous smell of manure. Just old
men spitting.)

Clearly Din Tai Fung is famous for Taiwanese - read that again
TAIWANESE - dumplings, and is seen as a Taiwanese - not Chinese -
restaurant.

You're just blinded by unification and that's why you have to distort
things.

(1)
Look at this link: from DTF **Singapore**.

http://www.nomadig.com/travel/reviews.php?rp=244;bl=m
Din Tai Fung - Famous Taiwanese Dumplings
PermalinkRestaurant, Singapore (reviewed February, 2005)

Din Tai Fung is a branch for the acclaimed Taiwanese dumpling
restaurant with the same name. The 220 seater restaurant at the bottom
floor of Paragon shopping mall is shock full all the time and you have
to queue outside for a few minutes. You'll get a sheet for ordering,
so spend sometime studying the choices and mark your selections.

The service is based on the sheet, and the waiters and the chefs bring
the ordered food piece by piece, so prepare for quite silent service.
It's a good idea to share the food, as otherwise someone would have to
wait with empty stomach while others are eating their meals.

The dumplings are good, but not outrageously excellent - I've eaten
better in a cheap nameless join in Singapore Chinatown. Somehow all of
dumplings here contain pork, which is bad news for all you vegetarians
out there. There are also other choices available.

Din Tai Fung, Paragon Shopping Center, 290 Orchard Road, Singapore

(2)
Still don't believe me? A search of Din Tai Fung yields this branch in
**Shenzhen**.

http://newsgd.com/enjoylife/living/dining/200309300047.htm

The art of Taiwan dumplings
Latest Updated by 2003-09-30 11:10:21

AFTER a month's trial operation, Din Tai Fung, the Taiwanese
restaurant which has made a splash in Shenzhen's catering trade for
its divine dumplings (xiaolongbao), is officially open for business
today.

New developments

The grand opening was marked by new decor in its Zhenhua store. The
restaurant has expanded its space to the second floor to ease the
pressure at the outlet which has been packed full for the past month.

The remodeled second floor features a VIP seat area and dining rooms
for four to 20 people, allowing a second choice for their dining
environment while tasting the delicate Din Tai Fung food.

The new bar, which sports a wide selection form beer and gin and tonic
to XO brandies and whiskies, will add some Western color to your
dinning experience at the Eastern-style dumpling restaurant.

If you live in the busy Luohu District, you can soon savor the Din Tai
Fung experience in your neighborhood. Din Tai Fung will soon begin its
trial operation at the Dongmen shopping area in Luohu during the
National Day holiday.

To celebrate these events, dinners will receive a 10 percent discount
on all the dishes in the Zhenhua outlet during the National Day
holiday.

Secrets of popularity

Despite its relatively high prices, Din Tai Fung gained fame in the
first month of its trial operation. What's the secret? It lies in that
fact that the restaurant has developed the art of making xiaolongbao,
an already popular food in China, into a culinary art form.

These juicy dumplings are usually arranged in a bamboo rack and
steamed. The trick is that the filling must be full of broth, that
squirts out when you bite into the dumplings.

At Din Tai Fung, the heritage of making the best xiaolongbao is well
preserved. With 30 years of development since its debut in Taipei in
1972, it became an international brand name with scores of outlets in
Japan, the United States, Singapore, as well as in Hong Kong, Shanghai
and Suzhou.

In 1993, it was rated as "one of the 10 best international
restaurants" by the New York Times. The publicity was invaluable and
brought many celebrities to the restaurant as well.

Din Tai Fung starts by making dumplings made only from the freshest,
highest-quality materials. For example, it uses only meat from live
shrimps and crabs to make the shrimp dumpling soup and crab meat and
pork dumplings.

The process uses strict quality controls. The restaurant sets the
exact weight of the dough, the thickness of the unleavened wrapper,
and the number of folds in each dumpling.

The lovely ivory shell is just tough enough not to break during
cooking and handling, but not too chewy when eaten. The filling is
juicy, tender and nearly mushy.

The crab meat and pork dumplings are highly recommended. The nearly-
perfect dining experience is worth every cent.

Other recommended dishes include the chicken noodle soup, the shrimp
dumpling soup, the noodles with stewed beef and the steamed vegetable
dumplings.

New dishes such as Taiwanese shredded pork rice, chicken stew with
basil in herbal sauce and mullet roe will be featured in the new menu.
English and Japanese menu are available.

Editor: Wings

* * * * *
> On Mar 3, 5:21 pm, "RichAsianKid" hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 3, 9:44 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" my-deja.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Ha very predictable RAK, I know you will say that because you are
>>> always so ignorant!!! No, DinTaiFung's food is 100%% Chinese food.
>>> They were brought to Taiwan by those people following KMT retreated to
>>> Taiwan in 1949. Unlike Zagat, NYT's recommendation is based on good
>>> food but not on decor or service. And remember the best Chinese food
>>> can only be found in Hong Kong, Taiwan, now also in mainland China.
>>> Oh well, I dont think you understand it because you have no taste on
>>> food at all you dont know what good food means except reading
>>> pricing. Good food does not have to be expensive, oh well, I dont
>>> think you understand it.
>
>> As I was responding to PeterL, the site states, "In DinTaiFung, the
>> average dining duration for one table is about 40 minutes. The massive
>> amount of orders often resulted in customers receiving the wrong
>> orders." Yeah, must be a Chinese thing!
>
>> And Zagat ratings are on a 30-point scale, covering food, decor,
>> service, and cost - it's the entire package that counts. Just like
>> cars - you don't want just horsepower and torque, but what about
>> handling (slalom)? Drifting (max angle)? Braking (brakepad distance)?
>> Cornering (g)? Others will care more about price, safety, elegance
>> etc. but people do rate things based on the whole package.
>
>> But I agree with you. Sometimes a very expensive and elegant
>> girlfriend (Japanese food) *can*, at least theoretically, at least in
>> some circumstances, be less, hmmmm, "satisfying" than a cheap
>> prostitute (Chinese food) where foreplay is inactivated, where
>> turnover is maximized --- just like where you have to rush dining in
>> just.....40 minutes at your DinTaiFung!
>
>>> On Mar 3, 9:24 am, "RichAsianKid" hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> On Mar 3, 2:45 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" my-deja.com>
>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>> Simpleton RAK has always told people that expenive food must be good
>>>>> food or good food has to be expensive. How embarrassing!!! Since RAK
>>>>> worships Japanese and anything related to Japan, then what Japanese
>>>>> say must be the bible for RAK. So maybe he can learn how to
>>>>> appreciate good food from his beloved Japanese. Here is one example:
>
>>>>> "Before long, almost all of Japan had heard about the famous Taiwanese
>>>>> DinTaiFung restaurant.
>>>>> Japanese tourists to Taipei increased, arriving like pilgrimages, to
>>>>> taste the authentic foods of DinTaiFung. Since then, there have always
>>>>> been long queues, full of Japanese tourists, waiting for their chance
>>>>> to taste the famous "steamed dumplings"."
>
>>>>> Now, RAK, here is the link to one of DinTaiFung restaurants in Taipei,
>>>>> its decoration is not much better than McDonnald's but DinTaiFung has
>>>>> become a must visit place for Japanese tourists to Taiwan. You see,
>>>>> good food does not have to be expensive even your beloved Japanese
>>>>> know it!!!
>
>
>>>>> BTW, RAK, DinTaiFung restaurant was on NYT's 10 best restaurants in
>>>>> the world in the 90s.
>
>>>> Few comments:
>
>>>> 1. First this is in Taiwan, so it's Taiwanese food, not Chinese! Even
>>>> if you say this is Chinese food, funny how it takes Taiwanese to do
>>>> things right! Mainland Chinese just suck.
>
>>>> 2. Tourists have different tastes. People visiting Singapore will like
>>>> to have local Singaporean cheap street stalls/street food which are
>>>> world famous, but that does NOT mean that it's haute cuisine, or that
>>>> you'll bring your loved one for your 25th wedding anniversary, or
>>>> conduct formal international business meetings over etc. Likewise with
>>>> Japanese tourists - in fact tourists often deliberate want to go to
>>>> try out local flavors, and since most tourists are from wealthier (1st
>>>> world) countries they want to try out third world experiences
>>>> (Incidentally doesn't this show that the Japanese and Taiwanese are in
>>>> bed together? Isn't that 'sweet'? Japanese and Taiwan (unlike China)
>>>> are friendlies) -- which is why countries which are favorite travel
>>>> destinations (quoted by yourself before) are disproportionately third
>>>> world, including China being one of the top 10
>
>>>> 3. Likewise, one ofRichAsianKid'sfav foods is actually the Burger
>>>> King Chicken Sandwich. That does not mean he'll go out on a special
>>>> date on Burger King or celebrate birthdays or parties there. In fact
>>>> he likes to brag about it because it's cheap and low class
>
>>>> 4. NYT is usually just one food critic's opinion, Zagat surveys in the
>>>> US are widely respected and broadcasted in signs outside and inside
>>>> some restaurants (a chalkboard often states "Zagat rates our [fill in
>>>> the blank] restaurant as one of top 10 in this city!") because they're
>>>> based on over 250,000 opinions. And Japanese gave Chinese a knockout
>>>> in 2006:
>
>>>> Japanese vs. Chinese: Among the key trends this year is the rise of
>>>> Japanese food, which clearly isn't just for Californians anymore. In
>>>> fact, sushi restaurants lead the Top Food and/or Most Popular lists in
>>>> Boston ( Oishii ), Charlotte ( Niko ), Chicago ( Mirai Sushi ), Dallas
>>>> ( Tepo ), Denver ( Sushi Den ), Las Vegas ( Nobu ), Long Island (
>>>> Kotobuki ), Los Angeles ( Matsuhisa and Katsu-ya ), Miami ( Matsuri ),
>>>> New York ( Sushi Yasuda ), Portland ( Saburo's ), San Diego (Sushi
>>>> Ota), San Francisco ( Sushi Ran ), Seattle ( Nishino ) and Washington
>>>> D.C. ( Makoto ), among others. On the other hand, *fine* Chinese
>>>> dining, once the leading Asian cuisine in the U.S., seems to have
>>>> stalled, with **not even one** Chinese restaurant reaching the Top
>>>> Food
>>>> Rankings.
>
>>>> 5. And yes, when it comes to price, the most expensive restaurant in
>>>> the US serves Japanese food, the most expensive restaurant in the
>>>> world is in Tokyo, serving Chinese, wooops, big typo there.... no,
>>>> they serve Japanese!- Hide quoted text -
>
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