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Re: 1.5 million Taiwanese now living in China proves RAK simply a China basher         

Group: soc.culture.hongkong · Group Profile
Author: Ira IRa IRA Humperdink MD
Date: Feb 16, 2007 00:25

What took you so long to come to this conclusion? Are you that dumb?

On Feb 16, 5:38 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" my-deja.com>
wrote:
> Ha, 1.5 million Taiwanese now living in China proves you RAK simply a
> China basher!!!
>
> On Feb 15, 9:08 pm, "RichAsianKid" hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Feb 15, 11:14 am, "Quadibloc" wrote:
>
>>> RichAsianKidquoted, in part:
>
>>>> Total deaths: about 65 million. Total foreign involvement: zero.
>
>>> Although, in general, this article is spot on about those overseas
>>> Chinese who enthusiastically support the Beijing regime, two things
>>> must, in fairness, be noted.
>
>>> One is that just because the author finds a lot of Chinese people with
>>> these strange views in discussion boards, it should not be assumed
>>> that all the Chinese who have left the mainland still think this way,
>>> but the author seems to be trying to get people to believe this. We
>>> should resist racial stereotyping and prejudices.
>
>>> The other is that people from Britain, France, Germany, and the
>>> Netherlands are not the only people in the world who are not Chinese.
>
>>> If the Japanese had not invaded China, Mao would not have had the
>>> opportunity to take over. And another foreign country, Russia, had
>>> some involvement in helping Mao get started as well.
>
>>> So it is permissible for Chinese to blame foreigners at least a little
>>> bit for the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward, for
>>> example.
>
>>> John Savard
>
>> The above is very reasonable. Perhaps we should screening middle and
>> old aged mainland Chinese men very very carefully before letting them
>> in! Make them go through a lie-detector test or something!
>
>> I suspect those who are younger and those who fled Hong Kong & Taiwan
>> because of fear of the onslaught of Chinese dictatorship, corruption,
>> and communism may in fact take an even more anti-CCP view than a lot
>> of "Westerners" who have less at stake.....Just as some East Europeans
>> emigrants can be way more staunchly anti-communist and pro-free market
>> than a typical American who may romanticize about socialism. In fact I
>> heard of one example where things have snapped the other way: posted
>> before - repost here for those reading:
>
>> "RAK knows of a friend of a cousin of his, only met her
>> once in passing. She's average looking. She apparently came from China
>> when she was in her early teens, spoke no English. Now she's 19. Met
>> her mother once too - poor English, actually kind lady and not your
>> typical Asian authoritarian but quite backward looking, like a Chinese
>> peasant. When I met the 19 year old daughter she spoke OK English, not
>> totally fluent but not too bad. Mother is a phD in chemistry, found a
>> job at a university. My cousin told me that she now (1) only
>> exclusively dates whites and has a steady Caucasian bf (2) she was
>> only
>> speaking English to her mother for some time (huh? that's hilarious
>> considering that she spoke no or little English just a few years back
>> and everything must be lost in translation) and was scolding her
>> mother about being backwards and backwards Chinese and was "ashamed to
>> be seen going out with her mother" (perhaps RAK cannot blame her....)
>> (3) she in fact is now estranged from her mother and went off with her
>> boyfriend. From the tone of my cousin it sounds like she is quite
>> ashamed of being Chinese and really really wants to ditch her mainland
>> Chinese background.
>
>> Ha! Guess interracial marriage *can* be a very practical solution for
>> some! Maybe for some mainland Chinese it's "genetic hitchhiking", who
>> knows.
>
>> I'm just citing the above as one example, and not saying that's
>> necessarily typical. But it's so hilarious and almost childish in a
>> way! So yes, perhaps not all mainland Chinese immigrants are
>> necessarily post-CCP or are crypto-sino-fasicsts.
>
>> And this is totally unrelated but just for fun (posted before, but not
>> necessarily to these groups) you can see how (young) South Koreans
>> criticize North Korea on a simple thing like a concert. Koreans are
>> very patriotic, and many in Korea want to see South and North unite
>> (unlike many Taiwanese who want independence or at most status quo).
>> And yet you get a flavor of the comments. The third comment is
>> especially hilarious - 'I got the feeling that we were in China or
>> something"!! Meaning: many (young) Taiwanese are probably more hostile
>> to mainland China - and in many cases, against the mainland Chinese.
>> (According to one, the only good thing is Chinese women - "show them
>> Taiwanese money and they spread like peanut butter...") And if there
>> are posters who think that I am hostile to mainland China, they
>> haven't heard many of what the "young" Taiwanese (either native born
>> or immigrated early) that I've met. And many are not even political.
>
>> * * * * *
>
>
>> Focus not on the girlband, but on the ** audience ** (very very
>> important) and the comments, please.
>
>> Most important comment (comment #3):
>
>> hyein101 (7 months ago)
>> poor shinhwa.. ehh. the mood was just soo.. sulung, y'know? i bet they
>> were like. glad it was over ^^;; shinhwa i mean. wow its hard to
>> imagine that we are the SAME korean people. cuz i got the feeling that
>> we were in China or something ^^;; hehe.. ehh. plz don't comment on my
>> comment ^0^ neways. i LOVE shinhwa especially Andy. even though he
>> doesn't have that many parts. oops this comment is getting too long.
>> well anyways THANKS FOR UPLOADING THIS!~ ^^
>
>> All the comments from the 1st page:
>
>> ibobpeb (7 months ago)
>> I give Shinhwa props for singing in N. Korea and N. Korea for allowing
>> Shinhwa to sing there, which bands and I think music such as Shinhwa's
>> is highly band.
>
>> TrumpetShell (7 months ago)
>> I'm sure the NKs never seen such a thing. They have to sing in a
>> certain high pitched way that's way creepy.
>
>> hyein101 (7 months ago)
>> poor shinhwa.. ehh. the mood was just soo.. sulung, y'know? i bet they
>> were like. glad it was over ^^;; shinhwa i mean. wow its hard to
>> imagine that we are the SAME korean people. cuz i got the feeling that
>> we were in China or something ^^;; hehe.. ehh. plz don't comment on my
>> comment ^0^ neways. i LOVE shinhwa especially Andy. even though he
>> doesn't have that many parts. oops this comment is getting too long.
>> well anyways THANKS FOR UPLOADING THIS!~ ^^
>
>> blablasometin8 (7 months ago)
>> damn north korean's government and kim jong il
>
>> Hero123 (7 months ago)
>> HAHAHA this is awesome, out of all the music in South Korea, they
>> decided to choose a bad English speaking long hair boy band performing
>> a song that has nothing to do with Korean Pride at all. very nice
>> haha! I wonder if the girls were like "I wish I was in South Korea so
>> I can listen to music like this" Or "WTF? why do these bitches have
>> prettier hair than us?" but I would give the same faces, if Shinhwa
>> ever performed in front of me too
>
>> saigonpunkid (8 months ago)
>> Shinhwa must have scared his ass off lol, performing imperialistic
>> spoilt "music" in front of Juchea audiences. Imagine having someone
>> from NK, we can show him all the beauty of the free world, he sure
>> will enjoy it with bemusement.
>
>> kimera7790 (8 months ago)
>> holy crap nice even a whole smile
>
>> Waychel (8 months ago)
>> Must be nice to go to a Shinhwa concert in Pyongyang when millions of
>> your own people are starving to death right outside the capital.
>
>> Andygunn2006 (8 months ago)
>> WOW The North Korean people didn't even smile i watched a film of them
>> in south Korea and the people there were shouting there heads off i
>> feel really sorry for the people in NK they don't know how to have a
>> god time dam Kim Jong Il
>
>> monishdragon (8 months ago)
>> what the fuckkk is wrong with them .... why were they even in north
>> korea... that is so damn scary... the way everyone looked at them...
>> the girls were probably like OOOHHHHhhhh cute guys... the guys were
>> probably like OOOHHHHhhhh target practice time.... glad they werent
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