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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: Thornspear
Date: Dec 3, 2007 21:50

Tsujsua, kuv saib nej cov hluas kawm tiav doctor ntshai tsuas pom
ntawm nej xub ntiag xwb ho yom, puas yog kev hlub es txawm yog kev ua
niam txiv xwb thiaj qhia tau tias muaj kev hlub, yog tus twg tsis muaj
poj niam muaj txiv ces tus ntawd tsis muaj kev hlub no lov? Txoj kev
hlub nws txhais tau ntau yam thiab dav heev, nws tsis muaj right and
wrong nyob ntawm saib tus tib neeg ntawd saib saib muaj qab hau rau
nws li cas xwb. Koj tus puj nyaj ntawd kuv ntseeg tias nws yuav muaj
txoj kev hlub loj tshaj koj lawm ntau caum npaug, tsis tsim nyog koj
yuav muab nws coj tuaj tham yam tsis zoo rau hauv no, nws ua txhaum
koj dab tsi lawm, puas yog nws mus convert koj cov kwv tij los ntseeg
Vajtswv tag lawm es koj thiaj li chim siab ua luaj li ntawd? Txawm yog
nws hos tau hu koj cov kwv tij los ntseeg...
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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: Tony
Date: Dec 4, 2007 05:43

On Dec 4, 12:50 am, Thornsp...@yahoo.com wrote:
>Txawm yog nws hos tau hu koj cov kwv tij los ntseeg Vajtswg tag lawm los txhob
> chim niag vwm ntsuav li ko, ua neeg nyob tsis muaj leej twg qhia tau
> the future, tsam lwm hnub koj ho lam mus thawj ces ho txaj muag laiv
> yawg, when high educated man bring evil to the innocent it makes him look more evil.

Yawm poschob,

Koj chob yuam kev lawm nav. That is his middle name "evil". He
enjoyed breaking down good people all the way around.

Ob yawm, the little god does not like the word "Xib fwb or Xib hwb" as
implicated in the Christian realm. It is surely an adrift between
heaven and earth, hell and everlasting life, good and evil.

It carries the same scenario as Job when Satan picked on him by
suggesting to God to allow him to afflict Job's body with and
unbearable boil. At the end God rewarded him twice on what Satan had
taken away from Job.
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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Dec 4, 2007 10:08

thornspear...

it is not a matter being married or not (i was only using that as an
example). but it has to do with the "personality" of the
"character". keep in mind, this topic saids "yog kev npam los yog kev
ci"....and i did make it clear that it really depends on how people
view it. you have your views..and i have mine. however, i have not
made it a conviction yet, regarding what my conclusion is....

now..back to "the personality of the character".....koj muab xav
mas...every person i know (including myself)...the prime reason for
not getting married ces yog 1. incapable of love 2. tsi txawj hais...
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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Dec 4, 2007 10:16

tshaj..

oy...cas yuav hais li kod na? qhov topic no tsi yog sau los sis cav
thiab sib ceg nawb....kuv tus metub.

in regards to your 3 points, qhia kuv sob....auntie muaj feem dabtsi
nyob hauv? from what i see, nws tsuas yog ncig ntuj ncig teb quaj qw
xwb...tsi muaj 3 yam kod laiv....yog muaj 3 yam kod ces...tsi tag ncig
ntuj ncig teb li mas...puas yog kev npam? puas yog kev ci? i'll let
you draw your own conlcusion.

temsis, koj xav los lus no, some say that, in her case, a man is not
important, and that the love of god's words are important....SO WHY
THEN, DID SHE ADOPT A SON? tsi ntshaw tus txiv...ho ntshaw
menyuam??? puas yog npam tiag ma? puas yog kev ci tiag ma?

yaweh
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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Dec 4, 2007 10:20

tony..

are you getting frustrated? hahahahahaah....

so far..you have made 2 points (that i reemmber)...without answering
or logically backing up your two puny points (obviously from an idiot
who believes in a bastard).

1. chrisintity is better thatn hmong religion
2. kuv ntxeev lus.

untill you can answer these two things, i still consider you a moron
for making such ludricous remarks....

now....lets get back to topic shall we? what more do you have to
say? kag kag..kuv maj maj put you down le lawm na.

yaweh
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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: zhen
Date: Dec 4, 2007 11:15

enjoyed reading and learning so far.
> temsis, koj xav los lus no, some say that, in her case, a man is not
> important, and that the love of god's words are important....SO WHY
> THEN, DID SHE ADOPT A SON? tsi ntshaw tus txiv...ho ntshaw
> menyuam??? puas yog npam tiag ma? puas yog kev ci tiag ma?

tej zaum nyob huav ntiaj teb yog kev 'npam'. tej zaum nyob saum ntuj
yog kev 'ci'.
tej zaum tam sim no yog kev 'npam'. tej zaum tom ntej yog kev 'ci'.

hnub i koj twb sau txog plab-tawg (plato), laus txuj (laozi), nkag-lub-
hleb-aum (galileo), kav-pw-noj-kas (copernicus) ned. koj txwb hais
tias lawv raug cem hu ua qev-zis (crazy/vwm). nyob lawv lub sij hawm,
lawv ua muaj ceem dhau hwv, tib neeg raws tsis tau lawv qab, ces lawv
cem hu ua qev-zis.

150 years is just when hmoob pib tso lub caij kev npam es los nkag lub
caij kev ci.
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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Dec 4, 2007 11:45

tsuj aws:

lawv cov no txiav tsi raug koj lub ntsiab lus thiab koj lub niam tswv
yim li os---vim lawv cov no, uas wb tij zog lawm--lawv lub mental
thinking tseem yog tseem tseem hmoob thiab li cov niam thiab cov txiv
lawm tiag.

koj hais yog lawm, ntshe yuav yog Npam lawm tiag! yog yus lub siab
zoo npaum li ntawd, yus yuav tsum qee tau rau tus hlub yus thiab txoj
kev yus ntseeg tagnrho.
kuv qhov interpretation from koj li cov...
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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: Tony
Date: Dec 4, 2007 12:50

On Dec 4, 2:47 pm, tsujsuadl...@hotmail.com wrote:
> zhen,
>
> yes, kuv yeej sau li ntawd...sometimes..at the present time, due to
> our "cultural exposure" to the everyday life, we fail to see the
> "truth" behind a certain things...
>
> qhov kuv tsi nkag siab mas, ua cas nws hos adopt ib tus son no
> xwb...temsis ho tsi yuav txiv. this one thing doesn't seem to fit the
> notion of "too busy to do god's words and no time for a hubby" or "tsi
> tau ready to get married.."
>
> yaweh

Here is an enlightening for you.

A family man worries about his family. He can't meet the needs of his
own family and the needs of his community and on to the world. It
goes the same for a married woman.
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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Dec 4, 2007 12:58

tony...

1. you failed to show me why christinity is better than
hmong...actually, you didnt' even attemp
2. you failed to show where i "ntxeev lug"
3....no you failed to answer the question of the orginal post....bla
bla bla bla without a point....kind make me feel good that you're
kinda dumb...

one more level of stupidity for you...

YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE MORON???

yaweh
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Re: Yog Kev Npam los Yog Kev Ci (Enlightenment)????         


Author: dawbliaj
Date: Dec 4, 2007 13:05

On Dec 4, 1:49 pm, tsujsuadl...@hotmail.com wrote:
> born...
>
> right on target bro...
>
> yaweh

Tsujsuad,

Koj tig mus saib luag lwm haiv neeg muaj txoj kev ntseeg Vajtswv thiab
laus, Koj puas pom Mekas cov Fathers(txiv plig) tsis yuav pojniam
thiab cov sisters tsis yuav txiv thiab nas? Lawv cov no tom tsis yuav
pojniam thiab yuav txiv los lawv yeej fij lawv tus kheej rau Vajtswv
lawm lawv thiaj tsis yuav. Peb Hmoob cov poj niam nyuam quav muaj
lawv tus ntxhais Nruag Hawj thiaj txiav tau txim siab tsis yuav txiv
es nws thiaj muaj lub sijhawm mus qhia Vajtswv txoj lus rau peb cov
Hmoob nyob ntau lub tebchaws paub txog Vajtswv txoj kev hlub xwb.
Tsim nyog koj thiab peb yuav tsum praise nws mus rau lub zoo samxeeb
nawb.
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