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Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: listhoj1234
Date: Jan 6, 2008 14:46

I always wonder why Hmoob Siv a dead chicken's feet to determine Hmong
future & others. Those who could understand please explain.

Back in the 1978 when LPDR attacked Hmong at Moos Oo, Phou Bia, I
remembered our village leader use a boy & a girl chicken feet to
determine which road is safer for the villagers to go so the LPDR can
not ambush us. As a child, It was hard for me to believe this dead
chicken feet thing because we continue to get ambush by the LPDR
soldiers with the road that village leaders told us to travel.

When one of my uncle, Hawj, failed to show up from a rice searching
trip, my dad used the same method, dead chicken feet. It's fales too.
My uncle Hawj did get murder by the LPDR which the dead chicken feet
said that he was alive.

Two months later Uncle Hawj Body was found, only bone left, dad and
uncles took the body and muaj pam. My dad was so mad and asked my
antic, muam phauj, to come over and asked that all the bad killing go
with my uncle Hawj. Kom muaj phauj tsawm txoj kev phem nrog my uncle
Hawj mus.
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Re: Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: Pajnplaimcua
Date: Jan 6, 2008 15:59

Shang dynasty twb muaj cov pobtxha uas luag muab pov hauv hluav ncaig
thiab saib seb nws tawg li cas ces lawv mam li muab cov kab (cracks)
ntawd los nyeem seb hais li cas.
Saib ko taw qaib lawv twb ua hauv zaj movie Vaj Yim Leej.

Seb lawv cov paub dua hauv no puas paub xwb. Yog kom kuv kwv yees twv
xwb, tej zaum yog vim hmoob ib txwm saib tus qaib muaj nqis ces lawv
thiaj li paub tias muab qaib tua saib ko taw ces qaib yeej qhia.
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Re: Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: Cat
Date: Jan 6, 2008 20:31

Beacause they did not have pig or cow's foot. It was too hard to take
care of such a big animal when you are running from soldiers trying to
kill you.
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Re: Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: yajyuam
Date: Jan 7, 2008 00:26

On Jan 6, 8:31 pm, Cat hotmail.com> wrote:
> Beacause they did not have pig or cow's foot.  It was too hard to take
> care of such a big animal when you are running from soldiers trying to
> kill you.

When my dad tried to use the chiken's feet to see if it was safe for
us to escape from Phoubia to Thailand in 1981 and all the feet had
given us a sign that it was safe but while we moved from the mountain
top to a valley nearby one of my brothers and our friends had been
killed by the Pathet Lao soldiers. We did not have any gun at that
time as we all were civilians who were confused and hiding in the
jungle. The other group were all Christian and before they were going
to leave our area, they had been praying and singing a weird song but
all of them fled to Thailand safely and noone lost a life. So I will
not believe nor have any superstitious about this crazy idea of
chicken's feet to foresee the future. It is ain't going to work!

yy
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Re: Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: All4One
Date: Jan 7, 2008 07:55

Bunch of HORSESHIT!!! Most if not all chicken feet readers would said
it's "GOOD" regardless how the dam feet turned out. The person who
came up the idea was probably on some kind of opium drug? STUPID old
fart!

jim

On Jan 6, 4:46 pm, listhoj1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I always wonder why Hmoob Siv a dead chicken's feet to determine Hmong
> future & others. Those who could understand please explain.
>
> Back in the 1978...
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Re: Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: Pao
Date: Jan 7, 2008 08:14

On Jan 8, 2:55 am, All4One yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bunch of HORSESHIT!!! Most if not all chicken feet readers would said
> it's "GOOD" regardless how the dam feet turned out. The person who
> came up the idea was probably on some kind of opium drug? STUPID old
> fart!
>
> jim
>
> On Jan 6, 4:46 pm, listhoj1...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I always wonder why Hmoob Siv a dead chicken's feet to determine Hmong
>> future & others. Those who could understand please explain.
>
>> Back in the 1978 when LPDR attacked Hmong at Moos Oo, Phou Bia, I
>> remembered our village leader use a boy & a girl chicken feet to
>> determine which road is safer for the villagers to go so the LPDR can
>> not ambush us. As a child, It was hard for me to believe this dead
>> chicken feet thing because we continue to get ambush by the LPDR
>> soldiers with the road that village leaders told us to travel.
> ...
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Re: Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: All4One
Date: Jan 7, 2008 09:00

Frankly, as absurd as I may have sounded in my previous respond....I
don't discredit the chicken feet reading completley in time of good
health, peace and good spirit, however, as in the case of listhoj's
relatives and many others' during time of war and death. It tells them
NOTHING absolute of the future other than simply manifested in them
with "courage and hope" to survive. If they stay, they'll be
slaugthered....and if they go, they also risk being slaugthered....so
all odds was against them. Therefore in order to remian
sane....someone has to read the chicken feet and give hope back to
those people for hope is all they've got.....

jim

On Jan 7, 10:14 am, Pao dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 2:55 am, All4One yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> Bunch of HORSESHIT!!! Most if not all chicken feet readers would said
>> it's...
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Re: Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: zhen
Date: Jan 7, 2008 09:02

jim,

how much of this practice do you know? if you say such a thing, you
should know enough about it beyond a superficial level. if you do know
enough, please, enlighten me.

today, we should not look at chicken feet, but use google world +
google maps and other close-to-real-time satellite images to make our
logistic decisions.

On Jan 7, 10:55 am, All4One yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bunch of HORSESHIT!!! Most if not all chicken feet readers would said
> it's "GOOD" regardless how the dam feet turned out. The person who
> came...
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Re: Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: All4One
Date: Jan 7, 2008 11:05

You can say I won't survive more than 3 months if I were to read
chicken feet for a living. :) So this should answer your first
question?

as for your second comment...fascinating enough, there is a large
segament of hardcore Hmong american who are still resorting to chicken
feet for guidance.....and if you question the accuracy of thier
prediction, you'll get an ear full of deviating from your root! Go
figure!

jim

On Jan 7, 11:02 am, zhen gmail.com> wrote:
> jim,
>
> how much of this practice do you know? if you say such a thing, you
> should know enough about it beyond a superficial level. if you do...
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Re: Why Hmong use chicken's feet to determined Hmong Future & others?         


Author: zhen
Date: Jan 7, 2008 13:02

> as for your second comment...fascinating enough, there is a large
> segament of hardcore Hmong american who are still resorting to chicken
> feet for guidance.....and if you question the accuracy of thier
> prediction, you'll get an ear full of deviating from your root! Go
> figure!

Jim,

it's interesting you should say that. it's equally interesting dr pao
skt would also bring in 'science' and 'holographic' universe to
support chicken feet predictions. honestly, i find your statement
realistic, but i find dr pao's suggestion/implications ludicrous. in
his 20 years of investigation, i wonder if he bothered with
'controlled' experiments; if not, what a waste.
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