IS THAT MEAN, YOU REMAIN SINGLE FOR A LONG TIME AND JUST DATING
WHOEVER YOU WANT UNTIL SATISFIED? DOES THAT INVOLVE SEX?

OR DOES IT MEAN, YOU REMAIN SINGLE FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN AND NOT
DATING OR JUST SELDOM DATING?

UA HLUAS NKAUJ/HLUAS NRAUG NTEV? HOW LONG WILL IT UNTILE ONE
SAFTISFIED ONESELF AS A BACHELOR OR BACHELORETTE?....

I NEVER REALLY UNDERSTAND HMONG LU LUG NUAV....PLEASE ELABORATE!

THANK YOU.

Phoojywg Dejadust,
Cia kuv teb koj ob peb los li qhov kuv xav.

On Sep 4, 10:12 pm, dejad...@yahoo.com wrote:

Yes, but no sex should involve.
Tham ntau tus es mam mam xaiv tus yus nyiam. Tsis txhob rawm muab yus
lub cev rau luag.
Hmoob tsis xa tau tus nyab (poj niam) uas twb sim txhij sim txhua
lawm. Tabsis yog tau tus vauv (txiv) uas tau sim ntau lawm los yeej
tsis ua li cas. I know, it is not fair for woman but it is how Hmong
believe.

Qhov no los tsis zoo thiab.

deja es...

cas es..koj tseem nug txawv txawv li kod thiab na...

yaweh

Hmoob thaud lo lus "hluas nkauj/nraug" mas yeej imply "celibacy" which
also imply abstaining from sex. Tiam sis only Hmong girls are
expected to follow these rules as HL already eluded to. Cov guy mas
yog lawv ib nyuag restrain lawv tus kheej mas twb yog vim lawv ntshai
txhaum plaub es ho raug yuam yuav pojniam xwb ov. Hos cov ntxhais mas
niam txiv yeej cem thiab hem tias tsis tsim txiaj ces yuav muab lawv
tsuav pov rau dev noj xwb ntag.

Ho niam no ces...xyov peb Hmoob tus coj li cas los muaj tag li lawm es
twb tsis paub yuav piav tog twg tuaj ua ntej li lawm os. Peb cov uas
yog niam yog txiv mas peb yeej xav kom tej menyuam mloog lus es tsis
txhob lam tau lam deev txhua leej txhia tus tiam sis yus yeej khoo
tsis tau leej twg li lawm thiab ces kawg yws yws cia xwb thiab tiag.

Peace,
HK

Deja,

Nyaj koj paub Hmoob lo lus "ua" no pos? Thaum ub mas feem ntau lo lus
"ua" nod kuv siv tau mus ntau yam thiab, tabsis tamsim no ces cov
hluas tsuas muab lo lus ntawd los siv txog ib yam ntau lawm
xwb...especially when referring to "ua hluas nkauj" or "ua hluas
nraug".

In the traditional sense, it means to be actively seeking the opposite
sex -- not necessary celibate, as others have suggested. Although
Hmong elders do not like to "hais lus dev", they do encourage
youngsters to "daj deev kom sib tau" or "ua hluas nkauj, ua hluas
nraug". Hmong elders will seldom tell a son to "ua hluas nkauj" or a
daughter to "ua hluas nraug". Rather, when Hmong said "ua hluas
nkauj" they will refer (mostly) to a daughter. When a daughter "ua
hluas nkauj", this means that she is open to courtship with boys. So,
when you (as a female) "ua hluas nkauj", you seek or are opened to
courting by boys. Similarly, when a boy "ua hluas nraug", he seeks
the company of girls. Sex is alluded to, but not encouraged...hoping
that marriage will be the eventuality.

deja aws...ua le caag ntev npaum le nuav es koj le ask tej me lus
qabzib nuav naj....

cov nam tsuv tum no ces tsi qha ncaaj ncaaj rau koj le os...Mhoob los
lus ua "Ua hlua nkauj hab ua hlua nraug" hod cev....ham tsi zoo tuab
yam le cov namnuav nej nhub sib uas los maj... cov thaum ub mam tseem
yoojyim tshaj cov nam nuav lawm hab, tej laus hais tas ua hlua nkauj
ua hlua nraug kom ntev ntev nuav ces kom yus rau rau sab ua txhua tus
ntag, seb yus nyam leej twg mam li yuav os...that includes sexual
relationship nawb.

cov thaum ub mas nhav daim tab es tsi muaj under.... mas, tawm mus nqa
taws xwb los twb ua tag, mus tso zig sawv ntxov xwb los twb ua
tag...niam no peb cov hlua no mas khauvxim tas cas seem tsi nrog puab
cov ua tij nyob raug lub caij hov hab og. moog tom teb tuab leeg
thaum twg ces hlua nrau yeej muab moos ua kag hab xwb no nawb. tseem
nhov ib cov paiv taas, tsev xov bamboo hab xwb ces nkag txhua txhua
mho moog pw nrog hlua nkauj hab pojnam no os...txhob mloog cov nam no
hais, lawv tsi qhab kag lub ntsab rau peb cov nam hlua no paub li hod.

qhov no tsi mean tias dating nawb, lawv kom pw kom txhij, pw kom
txhua....zoo lawm tiag tiag mam li yuav no nawb.

On Sep 4, 9:12 pm, dejad...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hahahhaa... Niam koj mas cas yuav tsis paub lus Hmoob kiag yom os
heheheheh.........!
Thaum yus tsis paub ces txhais kiag li yus xav xwb ces yog lawm
os....!

On Sep 5, 2:04 pm, Born2beHmong yahoo.com> wrote: