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Author: yajyuamyajyuam Date: Mar 18, 2008 23:42
One who loves ethnic rights, freedom, truth and democracy and
hates military dictatorship should welcome the newly formed of the MOU
(Memorandum of Understanding) that the Moua brothers from California
had signed with Col. Yod Serk to allow 1000 Mhong families to move
into the Shan State, have dual citizenship and register as Shan
citizens.
Dual citizenship? Is this good for Mhong people worldwide? LPDR
failed to provide Laonor dual citizen but the Shan is willing to grant
it.
Due to the armed conflict, many of the men died or disappeared and
there are many widows so men in that areas have married many wives to
produce babies for the war. It is perfectly for any Mhong man to
fullfil his dream by taking this opportunity. But me, I am not ready
and will not go so I would like to ask the Moua brothers and others
for their great ideas of the MOU should know its price. They should
know who will pay the price.
View the welcome video clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmUN6wnwdD8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiT8Mw7Akrw&feature=related
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Author: xtou55xtou55 Date: Mar 19, 2008 11:29
> One who loves ethnic rights, freedom, truth and democracy and
> hates military dictatorship should welcome the newly formed of the MOU
> (Memorandum of Understanding) that the Moua brothers from California
> had signed with Col. Yod Serk to allow 1000 Mhong families to move
> into the Shan State, have dual citizenship and register as Shan
> citizens.
>
> Dual citizenship? Is this good for Mhong people worldwide? LPDR
> failed to provide Laonor dual citizen but the Shan is willing to grant
> it.
>
> Due to the armed conflict, many of the men died or disappeared and
> there are many widows so men in that areas have married many wives to
> produce babies for the war. It is perfectly for any Mhong man to
> fullfil his dream by taking this opportunity. But me, I am not ready
> and will not go so I would like to ask the Moua brothers and others
> for their great ideas of the MOU should know its price. They should
> know who will pay the price.
> ...
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Author: fajkhaumfajkhaum Date: Mar 19, 2008 15:28
Thanks for the pictures and information. Zaum tag no kuv cuab ib lub
pob ntoos rau sawv daws saib. Tus yuav hais li cas los muaj. Tej tus
chi siab ceev kuj lias ncaws tej teg ua rau ko taw thaws thawv los kuj
muaj. Qee leej haj tseem kom mus muab nkawv tua kiag pov tseg kom
siab thiaj nqig. Peb Hmoob mas hnov xwb twb tsi tau paub thiab tsi
tau pom twb cuab qhov loj kawg lawm. Muab xav mas qee tsam kuj lias
txaus luag. Yog lam txua tswvyim rau Hmoob mas lav loos Hmoob yeej
poob deg lawm hov coob.
Since koj raise tau lub tswvyim zoo rau sawv daws nyeem, cia kuv pab
koj ib nyuag tshab kom ho deb zog qhov koj paub thiab.
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Author: Twmzeej6Twmzeej6 Date: Mar 19, 2008 17:32
On Mar 19, 1:42 am, yajy...@ gmail.com wrote:
yajyuam,
The "price of freedom is not cheap." You got that right. Lawv ntxias
kom Hmoob mus thaiv Burmese cov military junta xwb os. Tsis ntev ces
Hmoob tuag tag, yog tias lawv mus nyob Shan State nas.
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Author: CatCat Date: Mar 19, 2008 21:19
I'll believe it when the Moua brothers take their family over there.
The other day I talked to someone that just recently came from
Thamkrabot. This is old news. They have been going back and forth
between Thailand and the Shan state. They knew the offer from the
Shan existed but only a few took advantage, even those that did end up
back in Thailand. Didn't like the weather. This is new news to Hmong
Ameerican but old news to Hmong Thai, Hmong Lao, Hmong Burma.
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Author: yajyuamyajyuam Date: Mar 20, 2008 21:57
On Mar 19, 9:19 pm, Cat hotmail.com> wrote:> I'll believe it when the Moua brothers take their family over there.
> The other day I talked to someone that just recently came from
> Thamkrabot. This is old news. They have been going back and forth
> between Thailand and the Shan state. They knew the offer from the
> Shan existed but only a few took advantage, even those that did end up
> back in Thailand. Didn't like the weather. This is new news to Hmong
> Ameerican but old news to Hmong Thai, Hmong Lao, Hmong Burma.
Cat is right. I agree with him.
Faj wrote: 1. Nyob rau xyoo 2002, Muaj ib pab neeg (tsi tuav npe)
tau mus
signed ib daim MOU nrog pab neeg ua koj hais. Col. Yod Serk lawv pab
no yog nyob rau phab West camp ntawm ciam teb Thaib thiab Shan ze rau
ntawm Mae Hongson. Ntawm lub west camp no, yog ib qhov chaw uas neeg
ua luam yajyeeb loj heev. Yog li ntiaj teb tsi pom zoo kom Hmoob mus
nyob rau zaj no.
Young brother Faj,
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Author: yajyuamyajyuam Date: Mar 23, 2008 10:23
> On Mar 19, 9:19 pm, Cat hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'll believe it when the Moua brothers take their family over there.
>> The other day I talked to someone that just recently came from
>> Thamkrabot. This is old news. They have been going back and forth
>> between Thailand and the Shan state. They knew the offer from the
>> Shan existed but only a few took advantage, even those that did end up
>> back in Thailand. Didn't like the weather. This is new news to Hmong
>> Ameerican but old news to Hmong Thai, Hmong Lao, Hmong Burma.
>
> Cat is right. I agree with him.
>
> Faj wrote: 1. Nyob rau xyoo 2002, Muaj ib pab neeg (tsi tuav npe)
>
> tau mus
> signed ib daim MOU nrog pab neeg ua koj hais. Col. Yod Serk lawv pab
> no yog nyob rau phab West camp ntawm ciam teb Thaib thiab Shan ze rau
> ntawm Mae Hongson. Ntawm lub west camp no, yog ib qhov chaw uas neeg
> ua luam yajyeeb loj heev. Yog li ntiaj teb tsi pom zoo kom Hmoob mus ...
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Author: kaaskisleskaaskisles Date: Mar 24, 2008 10:49
Yajyuam aw..
Hais li ko ces lawv ham tsi paub 100%% tias koj yog cov Vaj los yog
Lis lawm las as.
Ab...Tos lawv pheej xij cem nej cov Vaj los ntshe nej txawj dag hwv
tiag. Neeg lab dav li koj kuv peb cov no lawm yog dag neeg yeej paub
las sav.. Cas tseem xyaum dag thiab.
Es koj xav tias ib tus Hmoob davtw li peb no es yuav muaj peevxwm
npaum li yawg thaub Dennis Lee no lov? Niag ruam suav ib tsi nto
kaum thiaj ntseeg koj xwb lau.
Raws li kuv paub xwb, Dr. Moua ua haujlwm rau hauv Miskas cov Special
Operation Command. Yog Dr. Moua lam tuaj pom koj qhov post no ntshe
luag yuav pom tau tias koj ruam thiab txawj dag heev. Just my
thought.
Kaaskisles.
On Mar 23, 10:23 am, yajy...@ gmail.com wrote: > On Mar 20, 9:57 pm, yajy...@ gmail.com wrote:
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> >> On Mar 19, 9:19 pm, Cat hotmail.com> wrote:>
>>> I'll believe it when the Moua brothers...
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Author: yajyuamyajyuam Date: Mar 24, 2008 22:03
Kaaskisles,
What I have been saying is truth. They really went to the camp to ask
the Thai Third Army officials for permission to enter the camp to
consult the Lao-Hmong leaders to move to Shan state but their request
had been denied. Thai officials do not want to break their promised
with the Lao PDR and now the Hmong will be deported to Laos.
The amateur satellite spotter is also truth. I know that our Hmong
people will not believe me because they have been living with this
trauma for too long that is why I posted Dennis Lee's phone number in
here in case you have any ?, you can call him for his friends and his
vision of advancing Tomorrow's Technologies for today.
I am prouded of the Moua brothers for they not just preached but
practiced. They walked the talked. Many of the Hmong leaders have
been tried to help the Lao-Hmong refugees but they did not take any
action but the Mouas.
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Author: CatCat Date: Mar 25, 2008 20:16
The reality regarding the people at petcuban is that the Thai will not
let them leave. If the Thai allow them to leave, it looks like
several countries including the US will take them. If the Shan state
wants them then that's another option. Before we create or
manufacture options for these folks in the camp we need to ask them
what they want first. I don't think they were consulted before these
Moua guys went and negotiated on their behalves. That seems to be the
problems today. The Hmong American telling people what is in the best
interest of the Hmong in Laos, Hmong in Thailand without even sharing
the ideas with them first let alone getting their approval.
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