> How come? Did I make up those dirty terms like ntshavpim, murder,
> rapist, devtsoob and so on to make you look bad? At our first
> contacts, you merely know me, but lately you exaggerate things more
> than I know myself, you even know my wife’s secret sex life.
see, you're emotionally hurt. i thought you said you were 'tawv tawv'
neb? o, c'mon, you employed those tactics too. don't act like you're
innocent. secret sex life, secret emails, secrets... it's all the same
bad fuzz ball.
> To talk productively, one has to stay away from bad influences.
uh huh, and i suppose you consider yourself a good influence? don't
worry, no c k emails.
> So far, to the eyes of Hmong LongCheng, I am part of the problem. On
> the other hand, to the eyes of Hmong in general, I am okayed, lots of
> friends.
you're okay in my book. fyi.
> I know, you have been insisting on serious discussion about my side of
> story, and, hence, you hated me so much for refusing to collaborate
> with you. Sorry, I only have time to look at a bigger picture and
> straight forward to a new path of life which I am pretty comfortable,
> right now.
"hate" you? no. "hate" so strong of a word. i am amused by you more
than anything. keep making 'claims' w/o substantiating, it's really
your MO.
> Let it be the way people wish, so they can enjoy it for the rest of
> their life. Buddha said ”We live in the Wattasongsane world, where
> Jealousy, Ambition and Greediness are the main sources of kama”. Peace
> of mind is what I am looking for, not excuses. Hmoob hais tias:” Uv
> tsis tuag”.
say what you want, but don't accuse people of 'bad influence' when
they reference published work, okay? "uv"? you call self-destruction
and sorties "uv". wow. new definition.
> It may not be the right way to solve the problem, when people's mind
> are already set before finding the truth, it's hard to dispute. I
no, there's still people who want to know all sides. don't doubt
people, yet, be so self-righteous referencing buddha. see the
contradictions?
> would rather try other avenues to develop my inner hapiness. Again,
like ... vandalizing other people's posts?
> Hahaha..how about those fake certificates displayed at those Hmong
> SSIers walls?.
you think they felt scammed, but do they themselves feel scammed? how
about a survey? oh, you're making accusations again w/o
substantiation...
> During the LongCheng era, all they cared about were POWERS, RANKS and
> MONEY. There were nothing about FREEDOM or DEMOCRACY. Look at dr.pao’s
> post, he only talks about POWER struggle, clan against clan, nothing
> positive. Aren’t you sick of this?
and which era of history did mankind since its establishment of
civilization did not care about vanity? i'm not sick of GVP. but i am
tired of those who blab about how bad he is, yet, have no solution and
no practice of such solution. i'm more interested in the good points
of dr s yang's dissertation put to work. the theory is intriguing, the
application is tough.
> Somehow, to compromise our differences, let’s say, in deep, the
> general fought for DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM and he was right about it. In
> this case, didn’t he blew his own chance by going against the American
> Policy?
it's politiks, you know that. reading from old posts as far back as
2003/2002, many of you talked about reconciliation by GVP and
accusation of this allegiance with the reds. whatever the divergence,
i'm interested in a new direction, new goals. it's time for a change.
many of those younger than you but older than me, seem to have
identified the problems and leverage points, but there is little
action. we'll see....
> I mean, how many times, did the white house called him in and
> warned him about going in Laos Alone and by Force? No one should form
> a government within the government, period. I
don't think that's what he was trying to do. but, we're getting way
off topic from how prediction of gvp as gang leader or hmong leader
could be used to justify calling hmong terrorists, as you would
prefer.
> think launching a cheap propaganda like the imaginary LVTYLTM would
> work? The best, it can do is to aggravate hatred among us. Guess who
> will profit from our self-destructive attitude? The commies.
that was petty. you seem to read everything on here. i've made my
stand clear on that tape. woe unto them.
> No, he did not bring me to America, many members of my family had died
> in that bloody war, so my family was more than qualified to come.
not per say, but his efforts and influence did.
> Didn’t you say that Lyteck was a HH massacrer? Wasn't you who said it
> or someone else put those words in your mouth? You tell me.
i thought you said so. you also called hmong terrorists and
mercenaries.
> Look at how narrow minded you are? He was a man of vision. HWY 13 was
> the only way to reach out from north to south? That was an important
> access to the economy and the strategy, the French colonists even
> forced people to build it. You should know that lands at developed
> area would have more value than the ones in the remote area. Today, a
> piece of land at km52 is as high as here and hard to get. The magic
> word is location, location and location. Got it, now?
so, he was a business savy person? that seems to be what ly teck was
more than an 'intellectual'. what's you're definition of an
intellectual? (oops, another question from a non-true scholar).
> Well, no one can predict his/her destiny. Tens of thousands lives had
> perished from that regime change, mostly Laoloum, including the royal
> family. To me, it was a great sacrifice from his part. Before he was
> gone for ever, he told me alone that he held a diplomatic passport,
> all he needed to do was just walk into any embassy, more likely
> France, and claim political asylum. Because of the remaining Hmong, he
> decided to stay till the end. It happened to be true, not so long ago,
> his wife came to visit me and showed his passport which stated so. He
> was only 35 years old.
thanks for sharing...
> you can't be constructive you are while talking destructive?You should
> look at a bigger picture, Is America a MELTING POT? Are all the races
> coming to America erased from their original races? Of course not,
> best it can do is a BOWL OF SALAD. Once here, nationalities have
> regrouped into their own communities like Saigon Town, Little Tokyo,
> Arabs Town, Mexicans Town, Italian Town and so on, so do Hmong in
> Sacramento, Fresno, St.Paul and it would also be the same to the Hmong
> in km52. I believe, the biggest Hmong New Year is held in that town,
> lots of people from all over the country gathering to km52 where they
> can enjoy bull fights, kwvtxhiaj, pajtsha lustaum. Life must go on!
> Did you see those DVD?
it must, but in the end, assimilation is nothing to be proud of. koj
puas nco qab hmoob nyoos hmoob siav? there's + and - to each
direction. you + i are no doubt the product of hmoob nyoos.
> TRUTH? It all depends. Let’s say; if you like Padaek (fish pickle)
> then you would say that it is delicious and if you don't like it then
> you would say it smells bad (tsw lwj). The FACT, Padaek is a pickle of
> fishes, but the TRUTH is hard to define. To conclude this, you’ve
> never seen me in person, that’s the FACT and you hate me, that’s hard
> to be TRUE. You should stay neutral in order to see the TRUTH.
be cool. that's the advice you gave to me a long time ago. i don't
"hate" you. you conjure up such superlative terms, maybe this is more
indicative of your thoughts and feelings. have i not seen you in
person? hrm... if i gave you my aunt's name, you'd know me or my
father automatically. too bad, we live in such a "hateful" world, huh?
be cool.
> Well, life is too short, my wife is too beautiful, gotta go on
> vacation for a week so so..
please don't involve your wife, she's no object. you're a man of
merits and can stand your own. i need a break too... nothing
fascinating yet on sch, and you won't answer or participate, oops, i
mean collaborate....
be cool.
