On Jul 24, 9:07 am, zhen
gmail.com> wrote:>i know you're trying to make me look bad,
How come? Did I make up those dirty terms like ntshavpim, murder,
rapist, devtsoob and so on to make you look bad? At our first
contacts, you merely know me, but lately you exaggerate things more
than I know myself, you even know my wife’s secret sex life. To me, it
sounds like you have been used by others bad elements. Too bad, you
make yourself look bad, not me.
> but let's start to talk productively, will ya?
To talk productively, one has to stay away from bad influences.
> are you part of the problem or do you strive to be part of the
> solution?
So far, to the eyes of Hmong LongCheng, I am part of the problem. On
the other hand, to the eyes of Hmong in general, I am okayed, lots of
friends.
> those were accusations/allegations, i said that many times. if you
> want to discuss this seriously beyond your emotional eruptions...
I know, you have been insisting on serious discussion about my side of
story, and, hence, you hated me so much for refusing to collaborate
with you. Sorry, I only have time to look at a bigger picture and
straight forward to a new path of life which I am pretty comfortable,
right now.
> that does not take away that many people claim to have witness and in
> one published book, that's quite authoritative on hmong history during
> the secret war, ly teck was blamed and guilty of the hin herb massacre.
Let it be the way people wish, so they can enjoy it for the rest of
their life. Buddha said ”We live in the Wattasongsane world, where
Jealousy, Ambition and Greediness are the main sources of kama”. Peace
of mind is what I am looking for, not excuses. Hmoob hais tias:” Uv
tsis tuag”.
> why don't you publish something to the contrary, so a true
> scholar won't have to ask questions and may consume the information?
It may not be the right way to solve the problem, when people's mind
are already set before finding the truth, it's hard to dispute. I
would rather try other avenues to develop my inner hapiness. Again,
Buddha said: “ Kama would stop by itself, if one does not seek to
commit kama”. In facts, those false allegations may have pushed me to
the next level of life, making me a real independent person. At least,
I can see thing from a bad angle and move on my life.
> scamming? do you have proof, or is this accusation and allegations?
Hahaha..how about those fake certificates displayed at those Hmong
SSIers walls?.
> he fought for democracy because he fought under the patronage of
> america's effort, in the name of FREEDOM + DEMOCRACY, against their
During the LongCheng era, all they cared about were POWERS, RANKS and
MONEY. There were nothing about FREEDOM or DEMOCRACY. Look at dr.pao’s
post, he only talks about POWER struggle, clan against clan, nothing
positive. Aren’t you sick of this?
Somehow, to compromise our differences, let’s say, in deep, the
general fought for DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM and he was right about it. In
this case, didn’t he blew his own chance by going against the American
Policy? I mean, how many times, did the white house called him in and
warned him about going in Laos Alone and by Force? No one should form
a government within the government, period. In the meantime, should
we, the Hmong, go alone and take over Laos, in the name of DEMOCRACY
and FREEDOM, all by ourselves, without our compatriots Laoloum? Do we
know that we, the Hmong, only constitute +_ 10%% of the whole
population? I guess the Americans must be sick of his behavior and set
him up once for all. Look at the Kremlin and the Berlin walls, are
they crumbled down by Force or by Policy? If you don’t see that the
American Policy is the right path to follow then you see nothing.
I feel pretty pity to our Hmong people who keep putting the rope to
each other neck like the bunch of monkeys trapped in the cage. You
think launching a cheap propaganda like the imaginary LVTYLTM would
work? The best, it can do is to aggravate hatred among us. Guess who
will profit from our self-destructive attitude? The commies.
> you seem to say 2 things. on one hand, you discredit gvp and all his
> efforts (he did not bring you to america, he is not a good leader),
No, he did not bring me to America, many members of my family had died
in that bloody war, so my family was more than qualified to come.
> but on the other hand, you give him all the credit in the world (that
> he is so influential and controlling, no new hmong leaders have been
> able to lead the hmong differently).
You only set your mind to believe it that way, not me. I am an
independent person, he is just another Hmong fellow. As I recall, at
the new year event, every time the general’s wives passed by our
booth, they were very friendly to us, to be graceful, we gave them
some merchandises as gifts, in return, they bought music from us. I
heard that the general like’m a lot.
> did i use the word uncivlized? or are you putting words in my mouth so
Didn’t you say that Lyteck was a HH massacrer? Wasn't you who said it
or someone else put those words in your mouth? You tell me.
> what he merely said is the reason for such progress?
Look at how narrow minded you are? He was a man of vision. HWY 13 was
the only way to reach out from north to south? That was an important
access to the economy and the strategy, the French colonists even
forced people to build it. You should know that lands at developed
area would have more value than the ones in the remote area. Today, a
piece of land at km52 is as high as here and hard to get. The magic
word is location, location and location. Got it, now?
> just a preview, IF km52 was such a contribution to laos by lyteck, why
> was he sentenced to such a fate?
Well, no one can predict his/her destiny. Tens of thousands lives had
perished from that regime change, mostly Laoloum, including the royal
family. To me, it was a great sacrifice from his part. Before he was
gone for ever, he told me alone that he held a diplomatic passport,
all he needed to do was just walk into any embassy, more likely
France, and claim political asylum. Because of the remaining Hmong, he
decided to stay till the end. It happened to be true, not so long ago,
his wife came to visit me and showed his passport which stated so. He
was only 35 years old.
> nothing to be proud of, especially cultural context; it requires a
> significant level of involuntary identity deletion. are you saying,
> lyteck helped to erase the hmong identity?
you can't be constructive you are while talking destructive?You should
look at a bigger picture, Is America a MELTING POT? Are all the races
coming to America erased from their original races? Of course not,
best it can do is a BOWL OF SALAD. Once here, nationalities have
regrouped into their own communities like Saigon Town, Little Tokyo,
Arabs Town, Mexicans Town, Italian Town and so on, so do Hmong in
Sacramento, Fresno, St.Paul and it would also be the same to the Hmong
in km52. I believe, the biggest Hmong New Year is held in that town,
lots of people from all over the country gathering to km52 where they
can enjoy bull fights, kwvtxhiaj, pajtsha lustaum. Life must go on!
Did you see those DVD?
> how about something more genuine like truth....
TRUTH? It all depends. Let’s say; if you like Padaek (fish pickle)
then you would say that it is delicious and if you don't like it then
you would say it smells bad (tsw lwj). The FACT, Padaek is a pickle of
fishes, but the TRUTH is hard to define. To conclude this, you’ve
never seen me in person, that’s the FACT and you hate me, that’s hard
to be TRUE. You should stay neutral in order to see the TRUTH.
Well, life is too short, my wife is too beautiful, gotta go on
vacation for a week so so..
Until then,
TseemYeej.
