According to the siv yis story/concept, there is a creator. But in the
Hmong animist concept, the creator is nowhere to be found. Only the dab
roob dab hav, dab pobzeb pobntoos are worshiped. Why?

Tsujsua:

Nyog rau hauv Chivkeeb Huam Yuaj hauv Shiiyi: - Tshooj 9, Nqi 19 (Sau
Sub, Ntxus Sub) -- Thaum Shiiyi tsaug zog lawm, Dab Ntxwg Nyoog thiaj
tso nws ob tug tub txib, "Angels of Death" los muab SivYis cov...

Tsujsua,

Always interesting.

Sibtham

On Dec 26 2006, 9:25 am, "Tsujsua Dluag" iamyours.com> wrote:

traditional beliefs: siv yig killed sub tuam and loob yeeg in his
house..ua ntshav liab vog hauv tsev

after pog sub tuam found out that her son and husband were killed by
siv yig...nws cia li tsi meej pem, cia li ua tsi taus noj (vim kev
tu siab and vim nws laus heev lawm). nws ua tsi tau noj ces nws muab
nws cov 4hau coj los txhoov noj. nws tso quav tawm ib cov sab...ces
nws cia li tua sab rau pem ntuj...nws tooj cov sab no mus nyob pem ntuj.
nws nyob pem kaum ntuj saib ntiaj teb, pom menyuam nuv ntses los nws
muab menyuam thawb poob deg. pom tibneej mus kev los, nws thawb pob zeb
dog mus tais tibneeg, pom tib neeg kov riam kov phom los nws muab phom
qeb fuam yuaj mus tua tib neeg...etc. yawg sub tuam thiab loob yeeg cov
ntshav hauv siv yis tsev los cia li los ciaj "sub tawg sub ntshaa" lawm
thiab....

siv yij thiaj li pom tej teebmeem no, nws thiaj sawv los tu sub every
year. ua kom pog sub ntshai es xob tsim vij sub vij sw thiab sub tawg
sub ntsha lawm. temsis,
siv yig laus laus lawm, nws tuag lawm thiab. tsi muaj leejtwg tu sub
lawm. vim li no, pog sub thiaj li sawv rov lov muab vij sub vij sw ua
los puv ntuj dua.

cov uas tsi tu sub yog hmoob "dawb" vim lawd yog neeg dawb huv..tsi tau
koom siab tua yawg sub tuam...lub ntsiab ces yog li ntawd. cov uas
tu sub ces...vim lawd "lees" siv yig lub txhoj lawm...lawd thiaj hu ua
hmoob lees. please don't confuse this two things with dialect. kuv tsi
yog hais txog dialect....

the story behind siv yig and sub tuam is a very long one. temsis kuv
hais
me me thaum kawg rau nej mloog xwb. yog muaj sijhawm los mam li piav
tagnrho.

yaweh

yog yuav qhia ncig txog zaj no mas yuav tau pib tom hauv paus tuaj es
tib neeg twm koj zaj dab neeg no thiaj li nkag siab zoo..

Yog vim li cas es Siv Yis thiaj li caum nkawv tua mas??

Mhoob tej tswvyim tham dab neeg ces yog tham txog dab thiab neeg (Dab &
Mhoob) xwb losmash.

Paub keebkwm zoo baum Mhoob es ua licas ho tsis nrog luag muaj tebchaws?
Je baum Mhoob ces kuj ua tau ntau yam tshwm ntawm Mhoob txhaistes los lawm
lospobh!. Ua licas pheej khaws luag tug xwb mash?

yob,

if you look at history, then you will know why hmong is the way
hmong is.

in the meantime, a story i sjust a just.

yaweh

http://www.hmongunionmarket.com/09022005/radio/
yaweh mus mloog lawv cov dab neeg thiab ma

Many believed that Shivyis and Yexus was the same. The original
recording was the Greek language and is pronounced something like "
xyisxus".Sometimes Hmong also txiav 3 tug mogzeej ntaub liab xaws rau
nraum nrobqaum similar like when Jesus was crucified on the cross w/
two other persons.

Do you have any idea how long ago when Shivyis was born?